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    Please Debunk this Parsha Myth

    From the COLlive inbox: A reader asks for the source of the notion that Sarah's tent had bread or challah with a long shelf-life. Full Story

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    another girsa in Rashi
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    another girsa in Rashi

    the Rebbe does bring in likutei sichos another girsa in rashi that says the bracha was in the dough AND bread/challah. (although it doesn’t say what that bracha was)

    Wow
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    Wow

    Thanks! It’s in all the Parsha curriculums, so ya, an actual source would be great

    Sheim Mishmuel
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    Sheim Mishmuel

    “האהלה שרה אמו. ברש”י דוגמת שרה אמו שכ”ז ששרה קיימת הי’ נר דלוק מע”ש לע”ש וברכה מצוי’ בעיסה וענן קשור על האוהל, ומשמתה פסקו וכשבאה רבקה חזרו. הנה הרמב”ן ז”ל )בהקדמה לספר שמות( כתב שהאבות הי’ סוד ה’ עלי אהלם, והמשכן שהי’ אח”כ הי’ דוגמת האבות. והנה שלשה דברים הללו מצינו במשכן שהי’ הנר המערבי דולק בנס שממנו הי’ מדליק ובו הי’ מסיים, ובלחם הפנים לחם חם ביום הלקחו ושנשתלחה ברכה בלחם הפנים ועוד זה כי ענן ה’ על המשכן, וכל אלה היו נסים. והם עצמם הדברים שנאמרו בשרה. וענין נר דולק מע”ש לע”ש, היינו שימי החול לא קלקלו את… Read more »

    He's right. can't find anyone that explains it to mean week to week
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    He's right. can't find anyone that explains it to mean week to week

    The Midrash says that there was blessing in Sarah’s dough.
    (Bereishis Rabbah 60) Rabbi Pinchas of Koretz comments that
    this does not mean that Sarah’s meager dough grew to massive
    proportions. Avraham was a wealthy man who had enough
    flour to allow Sarah to make plenty of dough. The blessing was
    that when she made the dough it rose evenly and baked into a
    delightful, sweet-smelling, gleaming loa

    Source?
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    Source?

    where is the source of the sappirstein chumash?

    Hes righr
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    Hes righr

    People explain it to mean her guests left satiated. simply that she had a blessing to be a good cook

    Shem mishmuel
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    Shem mishmuel

    The Sheim mishmuel says that the mishkan is built on the model of sarahs tent. He links the bracha in sarahs chala to the lechem hapanim that stayed fresh, the candles staying lit to the ner maravi etc. I linked the hebrew version. Bracha found in the isa does mean enough, or filling etc but this is the source for the linkage.

    My challa lasts a week.
    Guest
    My challa lasts a week.

    I think with all the sugar that I put in mine, it helps it last. 🙂
    At least here in NY, where it is not so hot and we have a/c

    Another parsha error
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    Another parsha error

    I listen all the time to teachers teaching that Yaakov waited seven years and then Lavan tricked him into marrying Leah (true). Then Yaakov waited another seven years and married Rachel (False) He actually waited another seven days, then married Rachel and worked the seven years for her.

    to #7
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    to #7

    he says nothing about it being fresh, just connects the bread aspect of it

    Another explanation
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    Another explanation

    “brocho” in dough means that u would fill up from a small amount. As we find regarding the brochos in bechukosai

    Bar Seichel's reinterpretation of #4 above
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    Bar Seichel's reinterpretation of #4 above

    You said: “Avraham was a wealthy man who had enough flour to allow Sarah to make plenty of dough” Maybe it would be more accurate to say “Avraham made plenty of dough and his wealth allowed Sarah to have plenty of flour to make her own dough” !

    from 3 &7 to #10
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    from 3 &7 to #10

    Correct. My point was the linkage between the lechem hapanim and Sarah’s Chala is the source for conflating the miracles. But see this amazing point. It is not the Jewish home that is compared to the beis hamikdash and we are recreating the lostglory in our own homes. But rather the beis hamikdash is built on the model of the Jewish home and the kohen gadol is built on the model of Sarah our matriarch

    To #9
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    To #9

    thanks for pointing out that misunderstanding regarding Rachel!

    Based on your proven ability to point out parsha errors can I suggest you write a blog with a parsha error of the week?

    I suppose it would be funny when you error and someone blogs about the error in the parsha error of the week.

    I just came back from a shiur in 770
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    I just came back from a shiur in 770

    The dough was blessed which some medorshim say it meant that the dough was blessed and a recipe yielding 10 challis, really made 20 challos and the like.

    Thanks # 3, 7 & 13
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    Thanks # 3, 7 & 13

    Maybe you can clarify: Does it say anywhere that Eisav had red hair? Or was he red skinned, and hairy (with no mention of the colour of his hair)?

    Midrashim
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    Midrashim

    Some of the stories in Midrash are allegories and not necessarily have really happened-it would be nice to which are allegories. Paroh’s small height and Titus being killed by a gnat that grew gigantic were two examples that may have been allegorical.

    Shalach monos
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    Shalach monos

    It does NOT have to be two brochos.

    haha
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    haha

    I feel like this is a venting session 🙂

    agree
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    agree

    I too would love to read more common parsha bloopers

    gezel sheina
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    gezel sheina

    Children in school are taught that sleep is the worst thing to steal as you can never pay it back.

    While it sounds nice it isn’t considered stealing halachokly as stealing can only be done when taking something tangible and sleep isn’t tangible.

    red hair
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    red hair

    most midrashim, and meforshim understand that it is red complexion, temperament, or covered in blood. dovid is called a similar description. in shir hashirim the description is adomi and black hair, so clearly there it is complexion. However in torah sheleimah see the footnote where he brings down a midrash that is in manuscript that says red hair. Shadal says red hair as well. if one read the verse as saying red hair covering his whole body it might work, but the simple understanding of the text seems to read adomi, red (comma), covered in hair like a cloak.

    stealing sleep
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    stealing sleep

    the poskim talk about this and some justify using the term stealing although the core issues are love your neighbor, not to hurt, and property rights include quiet. הרבה מהפוסקים האריכו בענין איסור ‘גזל שינה’ ומקורו, והעולה מן הדברים שאין זה איסור מדין ‘גזל’ אלא מדין ‘ואהבת לרעך כמוך’ או מדין אונאת דברים שאסור לאדם לצער את חבירו. ובשם החפץ חיים הובא (בספר החפץ חיים ופעלו חלק ג’ עמוד ק”ה) שהמעיר את חבירו משנתו גוזל ממנו את מנוחתו וזה גזל שאין לו השבה. מקורות: ראה בשו”ת שבט הלוי חלק ז’ סי’ רכ”ד שנשאל בדבר מקור איסור זה וכתב בתחילה שאין… Read more »

    Esther and mordechai
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    Esther and mordechai

    were cousins, NOT uncle and neice.

    Bas dodo translates as daughter of uncle i.e. cousin

    Avichayil (esthers father) was mordechais uncle.

    Source: megillas esther . perek beis pasuk 7 and 15

    Title doesn't match article
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    Title doesn't match article

    Is this ‘debunking a myth’ with a forgone conclusion, or is the point to find out if there is a mokor?

    יגעתי ולא מצאתי
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    יגעתי ולא מצאתי

    Focusing on the initial post that Sarah’s “challah stayed fresh from week to week” There are many places online that cite this including Aish.com. parasha sheets and woman’s sites. It also appears in many recent cooking books and the such if you check Google books but no place that authoritatively brings a source. The source is not in Midrash Rabbah 60:16 and those that say so are mistranslating. It is not cited as a girsa or midrash in Toras Shleimah, Meam Loez, Sefer HaParshiyos , Pardes Yosef, The Midrash Says, and others. Still looking. Although there is some indirect allusion… Read more »

    another possibility
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    another possibility

    is that no matter how much flour was taken out of the bag, it always remained full.

    to Number 22
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    to Number 22

    Thanks!

    to #27
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    to #27

    Logic like yours creates the myth that this young lady correctly labels….. your comment is for Channukah licht and Elisha and the oil….

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