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Our Jewish Family Was Also Targeted on Spirit Airlines

Shmueli Milecki says his Orthodox Jewish family was also singled out by a flight attendant on a Spirit Airlines flight from Florida to New York. "It’s time you invest in diversity training," he wrote to Spirit CEO Ted Christie. Full Story

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Yossel
April 12, 2021 12:11 am

By now everyone knows that Spirit is the “Subway of the Air.”. In fact they UN several flights per day from NYC to Fort Lauderdale. Flight 3 is a local flight that stops at the Kingston Avenue station and Flight 4 goes Express.

Solution
Reply to  Yossel
April 12, 2021 9:48 am

I think I have a solution to the wider mask problems on planes. It’s the flight attendants that enforce the rules, so let’s keep them busy. Before each bite you take, hit the flight attendant call button and when the FA comes over, ask him/her if it’s okay to lower your mask to take a bite. when you are done swallowing and desire another bite, hit that call button again and request permission to take another bite. A sandwich should get about 20 calls, a bag of chips maybe 50. I think the FA will leave everyone alone if we… Read more »

Good Idea
Reply to  Solution
April 13, 2021 12:46 am

Haha! That’s snarky!
The flight attendant claimed the family was “playing a trick” with a bag of chips.
Playing this game will really give them a reason to validate why they hate from Jews
We must always be a light unto the nation and not Ch”v make a chilul Hashem.
This is not a 4th grade yeshiva w a substitute teacher!!!

When you know it’s your dads comment
Reply to  Yossel
April 12, 2021 10:18 am

Hi Ta!

kids these days...
Reply to  When you know it’s your dads comment
April 13, 2021 4:41 pm

lol!!

Good for You!
April 12, 2021 12:20 am

Being quiet didn’t get us anywhere in the past 2000 years. When Spirit Airlines’ bottom line flies south other airlines will take note.

Vote with your dollar
Reply to  Good for You!
April 12, 2021 11:23 am

We stopped flying spirit years ago. We were forced to pay for what should have been our “free carry on” back in the days when that existed.
After seeing many others, whose skin color was different than ours, with larger bags carrying them onto the plane we resolved to do our flying on other airlines.

Have you got the Spirit
Reply to  Vote with your dollar
April 13, 2021 12:50 am

We havent flown Spirit in decades. The last time was when my husband and I departed the plane and then my husband realized he left his expensive new coat on the plane. The flight attendants did not allow us to go back on the plane and said we had to make a claim. We got no compensation just a run around. Since then we will not fly Spirit , even if tickets were free

Excellent
April 12, 2021 12:38 am

I have no doubt that your eloquent and stateman like letters was something you learnt from your father. Rabbi Bentzion Milecki is one of the great writers in the Jewish world today.
When you mentioned Gus Freiberg my memory transported me back to sydney so many years ago. They don’t make such Jews like that anymore and it is to your credit that you have absorbed some eternal lessons that only a man like mr freiberg could impart.
Please keep us informed of how things unfold

KOL HAKOVOD
April 12, 2021 12:40 am

KOL HAKOVOD NOT ONLY FOR THE ARTICLE, BUT THE POLITE TONE THAT IT WAS WRITTEN IN. AT LEAST IT WAS NOT A CHILUL HASHEM. SADLY THIS IS THE ATMOSPHERE WE ARE LIVING IN. IT’S NOT LIMITED TO THE AIRLINES BUT THE WHOLE UNITED STATE, AND THE WORLD, IS AFFECTED.

So well spoken!
April 12, 2021 1:26 am

Thank you ever so much for speaking so articulately on behalf of your Jewish brothers and sisters! I’m blown away by the well written correspondence!
May your efforts bear wonderful results!!

Concerned
April 12, 2021 3:33 am

You need to calm down. Invoking the Holocaust was a step too far.

Please
Reply to  Concerned
April 12, 2021 9:25 am

Please go to a Holocaust museum it will really teach you a lot

Fact
Reply to  Concerned
April 12, 2021 10:38 am

Don’t be in denial

Quite inappropriate
April 12, 2021 5:57 am

It is quite appropriate to suggest diversity training, quite inappropriate and ignorant to make connections with the holocaust

The Holocaust didn't happen overnight
Reply to  Quite inappropriate
April 12, 2021 8:59 am

The Holocaust was allowed to develop slowly over a number of years in an atmosphere of indifference, much like today

nope
Reply to  Quite inappropriate
April 12, 2021 10:45 am

Sometimes people make extreme connections to the Holocaust, which i disagree with, it is not fair to call people who you politically disagree with “Nazis” However he never did that! He very clearly said that as Jews we have a history of real real anti semitism which makes us feel unsafe today. If he is talking about AntiSemitism, then he can talk about the Shoah!! Diversity training is always helpful and could also be used in our own institutions.

Ephraim
Reply to  Quite inappropriate
April 12, 2021 4:46 pm

Holocaust doesn’t necessarily mean trains and gaz chambers, or massacer and mass grave in Ukrainian forest.

There’s all the events that led to that.
We are talking about 10 years of racist behavior towards jews.
Humiliation, dépravation, murders (Aka incidents) , ect ect ect
Including the antisemitic Law in 1935.

So talkin about the Holocaust is not an exagération, when you know what led, to what we know today as the Holocaust.

Never again.

Holocaust
Reply to  Quite inappropriate
April 16, 2021 10:30 am

The H didn’t start overnight?
Would you compare it to kristalnacht? Or even before to the Dreyfus case? Or to the ghettos?

a canadian citizen
April 12, 2021 7:42 am

We certainly have some work to do to bring Moshiach.

Great Letters S. Milecki to Spirit!!
April 12, 2021 8:00 am

Sad to hear of yet another antisemitic incident on Spirit airlines. Shmueli Milecki your eloquent letter is a wonderful kiddush Hashem. Your follow up letter to the airline all the more so!
Hopefully Spirit Airlines will take your observations seriously and train their staff and not look away at employees who are treating from Jews with contempt, indignantly and with shame.
The fact that you did not shame the flight attendant in response to his lowly behavior towards you is commendable and hopefully will impact Spirit airlines to take your advice. Kol Hakovid to you and your wife!

No need to worry about shaming the flight attend
Reply to  Great Letters S. Milecki to Spirit!!
April 12, 2021 9:07 am

Sadly, the flight attendant has no shame..

a canadian citizen
April 12, 2021 8:10 am

sounds like I would search for an airline which has a different spirit when I travel

It also happenNed to us
April 12, 2021 8:59 am

WE TRAVELED ON DELTA.
IT WAS AN EARLY FLIGHT AND MY HUSBAND (LOOKS FRUM) WAS EATING HIS BREAKFAST SANDWICH.
THE STEWARDESS ASKED HIM TO PUT ON HIS MASKS.
I TOLD HER THAT WE LEFT OUR HOME VERY EARLY AND HE WILL DEFINITELY PUT BACK HIS MASKS IN A FEW MINUTES, AS SOON AS HE FINISHES THE SANDWICH.
MY HUSBAND (WHO DOES NOT LIKE CONFRONTATIONS) PUT ON HIS MASK AND LIFTED IN SLIGHTLY DURING BITES,
I THINK THAT THE STEWARDESSES SHOULD WEAR NAME TAGS SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THE GOOD ONES AS WELL AS THE NASTY ONES.

Eating on plane
Reply to  It also happenNed to us
April 12, 2021 4:56 pm

Many confrontations revolve around food. I flew during Covid and decided not to eat during the flight, so as not to disturb my mask. I lived through it, wasn’t a big deal to refrain from eating on the plane.

We are walking bill boards ALWAYS
April 12, 2021 9:02 am

Lots of these stories don’t happen in a vacuum. True that some of these incidents are genuinely true but the problem is for every one that maybe true many more the airlines are in the right. These flight attendants are human and get abused by frum jews a lot and unfortunately have a negative feelings when just seeing them get on the plane. If you travel a lot you get to witness to many times how frum yidden couldnt care less for anyone around them etc and someone else pays for it..

Similar thing happened to me
April 12, 2021 9:06 am

I stood up in the middle of the flight to get food for my family and a white flight attendant barked at me to “sit down, the seatbelt sign in on”, in fact it was not on, and I pointed this out to him. He simply walked away, no apology. They are definitely looking out for us, but not in a good way!

Reb Shmuel...
April 12, 2021 9:44 am

…you’re under the impression that “diversity training” will make them more sensitive to your American, Hungarian, Czechoslovakian, Australian, Burmese, Iraqi, Polish and Russian Jewish heritage. Unfortunately, nowadays “diversity” means one specific type – one of the things described in Mishlei 30:22 – and that whole laundry list of countries means nothing in the face of that.

MTL
April 12, 2021 11:48 am

I can’t understand how this “airline” is still in business. About 15 years (give or take) ago, we went to CH for a wedding. Our daughter came from the West Coast to meet us. She flew Spirit with a stopover in Florida on the day of the wedding. In her luggage, she had all of her clothes, including the ones for the wedding and all of her belongings. In Florida, for some reason, her flight was not only delayed, but cancelled and rebooked with a longer delay. When she finally reached NY, her luggage did not. There were no explanations.… Read more »

Nechama
April 12, 2021 12:07 pm

Great letter. And very well written. Kudos to you. And to all those apologetic people, get real! If something bad happens you need to stand up. Be proud.
Job well done!!

Mask
April 12, 2021 12:11 pm

I do believe it is time for someone to make a mask that has a zipper or velcro for eating of for straw to drink. It can be hidden by a pleat in the mask. This way yoy can wear the mask while eating.

Better
Reply to  Mask
April 12, 2021 5:01 pm

To make a breathable mask. One that looks like a mask but has holes to breath!

MTL
Reply to  Better
April 12, 2021 10:45 pm

Sort of defeats the purpose, don’t you think?

anon
April 12, 2021 2:16 pm

I don’t believe this airline is anti semitic- I flew with my large (6+) very obviously frum family, and was treated beautifully. In fact the flight attendants kept my children entertained a significant portion of the flight. I suspect that maybe we are seeing generalization on the part of the flight attendants. I was at the airport yesterday, and a noticeable number of frum people were either walking in masks under nose/ or chin, or had to be reminded to put one on at all. Very few others had to be told to mask, they were masked properly from the… Read more »

Menachem
April 12, 2021 3:42 pm

Spirit is a BAD airline…
But please do not ever equate anything to the Holocaust.
Nothing can ever compare to the horrors of the Shoah!!!

WHY?
April 12, 2021 4:14 pm

I cannot understand why anyone would fly Spirit. If you can afford to fly on vacation, use JetBlue, maybe a few dollars more, but they usually are a dream.

jet blue is better
April 14, 2021 5:43 pm

it maybe a few extra dollars but there is no hate better leg room and if you hold that you can watch tv there is one!

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