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Rabbi B. Zaltsman
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Rabbi B. Zaltsman

A mechanech Par Exelon’s. He understands that even nowadays the importance of teaching our children only in Yiddish! Hopefully he’ll do the same in the new high school. Using his innovative wonderful ideas. His school is an example for the whole world to see

Wow! It's about time!
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Wow! It's about time!

All mesivtos should offer a dual track – available for those talmidim who desire it. This is an idea way over due! Kol Hakavod for saying it as it is – offering limudei “stam” al taharas hakodesh.
Best of luck!

wow!
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wow!

just what me and my husband where looking for so desperately for our son.
baruch hashem

congrats, finally!!
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congrats, finally!!

This has been long in coming, looking forward to seeing the results of this very necessary idea!

B"H
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B"H

it’s a bout time !

So important
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So important

This is the call of the hour. It is so important to have a yeshiva which offers todays bochrim the ability to both learn and pursue a parnasa without having to leave the system.
BH it is being run by an experienced and chassidishe principal.
Kol hakavod!

Wow finally.
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Wow finally.

This is so needed not only in TORONTO. But everywhere else!
Yasher koach to the staff and commitee that made this happen.

interested parent
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interested parent

I have been hoping something like this would be started. Best of luck

happy to hear
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happy to hear

That is great news!

לימוד שאינו לימודי קודש וגם אינו חול
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לימוד שאינו לימודי קודש וגם אינו חול

for a clearer explanation
not in any negative way ח”ו, but is there someone that can explain what exactly does it mean לימוד שאינו לימודי קודש וגם אינו חול
samengly its a limmud that is found IMPORTANT FOR לימודי קודש BUT NOT NECESSARY?

|Wonderful Decision
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|Wonderful Decision

I am sure it is difficult to go against common norms, but i think there are a great many students who struggle in the current system, who will benefit greatly by this framework! I am so happy that someone took the brave decision to offer a yeshiva option, with good standards, that will also provide a secular education, for those who need it.

very much needed
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very much needed

Can anyone please post a phone number to reach the mesivta

Shame
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Shame

Such a shame we only unearthed the Sicha now, we could hava had a Limmud Taharas Hakoidesh track in all Chabad Yeshiva Gedoilos, including 770 all these years. I guess its never too late, can’t wait to attend this track in my local Zal, Smicha and 770 yeshivos.

New school
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New school

who’s gonna be the Hanhala?

@ comment #7
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@ comment #7

the article states clearly that there’s a dorm option for out of towners.

Amazing principle
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Amazing principle

Rabbi Zaltzman is the principle of three of our sons. He has constantly impressed us in so many ways. He’s very mesuder, cares for every child, greets them with a smile at the door and always takes the time to give a compliment ,while still being firm on school rules. Many principles should call him for advice.
He really does an amazing job!!!!
The Erlenweins

sounds excellent!!!!!!
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sounds excellent!!!!!!

THIS is what lubacitch needs… A Chasidisher mesivta for boys who don’t want to listen to shiurim for ten hours a day, but want to learn and daven and maximize their talents and interests

b"h
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b"h

I’m so happy to hear about this!

Nice
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Nice

Wish there was a Zal like this. It is very unrealistic for many of our boys to be spending five years in Zal until getting smicha. They are coming out with no skills for being gainfully employed if they are not cut out for shlichus or chinuch.

cool! too bad (on me)
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cool! too bad (on me)

i wish this was around b4 i had to “go thru the system”, unfortunately i didn’t make it thru, but if they had something like this i would have had a chance.

i think that ppl are scared to make such a thing, and maybe that’s why some meny guys like me just “drop out”
we get a drift from the rabbi’s that DO THIS , AND IF YOU DONRT FIT THIS GLOVE THEN TOO BAD”.
well I’m glad my kids will have a chance.
thank you rabbi z.
i always loved you as a principle.
z.d.

Lubavitch's in Windsor, ON
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Lubavitch's in Windsor, ON

B”H! We are very excited about this & interested in looking into it further! Our eldest son is headed off to Mesivta THIS ELUL! Timing and curriculum sound just what he is looking for!

How is this different?
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How is this different?

How is this different from what the yeshivos in L.A. or Pittsburgh offer?

Baruch Hashem
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Baruch Hashem

Amazing!!!

Great! This was very needed for a long time!
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Great! This was very needed for a long time!

There are so many families that just had a sigh of relief.

Great Initiative
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Great Initiative

This is great news for parents of mainstream kids who want a chassidishe sevivah of a mesivta and may also want an opportunity to get a general studies education and diploma.

response to # 22
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response to # 22

The article states that the philosophy of “Ohr Temimim Toronto” is to teach the general studies subjects following the Rebbe’s concept. See the attached sicha. This isn’t a put down on any other school. This is the philosophy toronto decided to adopt and the standard this mesivta is going to live up to. It will take lots of talent, hard work, money and perseverance. But with Hashem’s help it will be accomplished.

The email doesn't work
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The email doesn't work

Is there a correction to the email address? It doesn’t work

Please translate the Rebbes letter!
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Please translate the Rebbes letter!

Very exciting! Can someone please translate the Rebbes letter or at least give us a summary for all of us non Yiddish speaking people.

Thanks!!

not so simple
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not so simple

While there is a growing number of families Who seem to have children who they feel can not sit and learn Torah for an entire day. I believe it’s a tremendous responsibility To take a sicha from the rebbe And use that out for some kind of heter for such a program. This sicha is directed completely on the idea That Since there are people who study limud chole all year. And now in the summer months. They are free of these obligations there for our summer camps need to utilize the opportunity to transform all the possible negative impurities… Read more »

Point of Letter
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Point of Letter

The point of this quoted letter is that the Rebbe has no problem with yeshiva boys learning secular subjects. A chassidish yeshiva CAN be 100% and also CAN teach fully English subjects – the best of both worlds!

not so simple part 2
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not so simple part 2

התוועדות יום שמחת תורה תשט”ו זכורה כהתוועדות שבה חל מפנה בעולמה החינוכי של ליובאוויטש. באותה התוועדות של הרבי בהשתתפות קהל החסידים שנקבצו ובאו מקרוב ומרחוק, החל הרבי לדבר בצורה נרגשת על אודות חינוכם הטהור של ילדי ישראל, כאשר יש מוסדות חינוך שבהם מערבים גם לימוד מקצועות חול. הרבי השתמש במילים נוקבות: “חוששים שמא ילך הילד ברחוב, וכשיצטרך לשאול מישהו למקומו של רחוב מסוים – ידבר באנגלית עם “מבטא יהודי” (“אַ אידישן אַקצענט”) ויהיה ניכר שהוא יהודי. ולכן לומדים עמו אנגלית, ושאר חכמות חיצוניות, כדי לטמא את מוחו של הילד. ג’ השנים הראשונות שבהם מתחיל הילד ללמוד, הם הזמן שהוא היסוד… Read more »

great idea
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great idea

Just the kind of yeshuva we were looking for for our son! Hatzlacha rabba

English summary of the Sicha in the above article:
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English summary of the Sicha in the above article:

[Based on the original audio recording 13 Tamuz 5742] 1) During the summer break, children should add in לימודי קודש. 2) The Alter Rebbe uses a very severe remark concerning learning חכמות חיצוניות [i.e. secular studies] “This is מטמא the soul” (not just “איסור” or “פסול” etc.) 3) טומאה contaminates: a. just by contact alone, b. even a newborn child. 4) Yet since it exists, it can certainly be used for good. Just as we can turn over the bad of a רשע into “light”. 5) I won’t call these studies “לימודי חול”, since we need to use such studies… Read more »

How is this new?
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How is this new?

Pittsburgh is a great mesivta who has been doing this for decades…

Thank you!
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Thank you!

Thank you for those who posted the new sicha. I was wondering why there was limudei kodesh only schools in the first place.

how far
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how far

how long of a drive is toronto from new york?

cheap flight around the year?

no way!
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no way!

this is a dream becoming reality

who are the staff?
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who are the staff?

are they announcing the staff some time soon?

i would want to hear a bit about them before i go there.

but the idea sounds cool.

to 36`
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to 36`

9 hour drive.
weekly buses from crown heights and back.
flights range between $240, depending on how far in advance.

how meny guys
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how meny guys

we want to go as a group

anyone know how meny bochrim they are accepting?

to #20 "z.d"
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to #20 "z.d"

Thank you very much for sharing your life journey. I do feel sympathy over the fact that you didn’t have a suitable yeshiva to suit your personal needs. However, like you pointed out in your comment, there are B’H many yeshiva programs today that offer extra-curricular activities to stimulate the interest of each bachur, as well as to provoke interest in the genuine yeshiva style as a whole. It’s true that we can’t go back in time and correct the unfortunate situation which you were put through, however, you should be consoled at least a little bit by the knoledge… Read more »

how many guys
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how many guys

Send an email to [email protected] and will get back you.

finally
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finally

why did it take so long for someone to make such a program
such a program was clearly needed from long ago

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