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    Nanny Was Feeding Non Kosher

    From the COLlive Inbox: A young Hispanic babysitter at Lefferts Park in Crown Heights was seen sharing her non-Kosher takeout food with the Jewish child in a mini stroller. Full Story

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    call the cops sounds dangerous!!!
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    call the cops sounds dangerous!!!
    kudos
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    kudos

    kudos to those teachers for noticing and publicizing… I know most moms who are leaving their children with babysitters do it for good reason and have so many worries about the arrangement – a good friend of mine that has a non jewish babysitter tells the babysitter that her children are highly allergic and can only eat food that she ( the mom) either prepares or buys ( such as yogurts cookies etc) I don’t usually promote lying but in these cases where the babysitter may not understand or respect our kosher laws this may deter her from feeding them… Read more »

    you cannot trust your precious children with goyim!!
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    you cannot trust your precious children with goyim!!

    thank you to the alert teacher in bnos menachem who brought this to our attention. it is inconcievable to me that anyone would think that a non-jew could offer the kind of physical and spiritual care that a jewish child needs. many of the caregivers are kind and warm (i’ve seen them myself, in lefferts park ) But they have no idea of how to protect and nurture a yiddishe neshoma. the things that children see, hear (and eat!) and that the caregivers allow them to do,would horrify their parents if they could see it. get someone jewish to watch… Read more »

    So sorry about this...
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    So sorry about this...

    My nanny actually told me she herself saw this a few weeks ago, and being very reliable and religious herself she was horrifed and yelled at the babysitter not to do this. So evidently this is not the first time the babysitter has done this. My babysitter came home and told me she saw another babysitter in lefferts park serving chinese takeout to a jewish child, but the woman wouldnt listen to her when she said not to. I wanted to do something but had no way of identifying who it was, as my nanny didnt know the other woman’s… Read more »

    himel geshrai
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    himel geshrai

    shomu shomayim

    2 # 3
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    2 # 3

    true true true no money in the world is worth having a goy mechanach your child so work from home send ur child to yiddisher playgroups babysitters if u have them take care of your diamonds there are many girls around inquire older mothers bobies who could help out

    When you find a good goy nanny, train her well....
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    When you find a good goy nanny, train her well....

    Not all goyim are the same. I had a goy nanny helping me with the kids when they were younger. I taught her the milchig and fleisig rules, and the we had the brachas for everything on the wall in english letters. She was great. Always made sure the brachas were said before any kid put food in their mouth, made sure the kids would say asher yatzar…if I was not home for bedtime, she would make sure they would say the shema. She was our “live-out nanny” for 5 years, and then decided to move out of town. Life… Read more »

    moshiach now
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    moshiach now

    mamash someone should get to the bottom of this

    mother of five
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    mother of five

    it’s not the first time and won’t be the last. if you care ENOUGH about your children, you will make sure to get 1. someone jewish and 2. make sure they are what your children NEED

    nothing new
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    nothing new

    As many mothers who take their children to Lefferts Park can attest- your nanny/ babysitter- no matter how much you like her- will not care for your child as you would. I have seen , way too many times, babies and kids that are overdressed and sweating in the summer, or with little bitter red fingers in the winter. Babies who are directly in the sun and clearly uncomfortable, and oblivious nannies who are chatting or enjoying the fresh air without a thought to the wellbeing of the baby. You can argue this to a point- but a mother will… Read more »

    to: So sorry about this...
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    to: So sorry about this...

    Was the incident your nanny mentioned the same one reported here today: Tuesday, October 13?

    10...
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    10...

    Of course a nanny/babysitter will never care for your kids the same as you!!! but if you need to work you need to work, and if you can’t find a jewish nanny, then do what I did, train one exactly how you want her to be, and pay her well. After all she is watching your kinderlach!!!

    STOP
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    STOP

    Lets not be judgemental. It is a very hard thing toleave your child with anyone! Some people just dont have a choice! It is not always possible to find a jewish babysitter Dont add to the guilt trips.

    care for your kids!
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    care for your kids!

    nothing new. goyim were never/are never to be trusted. only shluchim who dont have a choice can rely on miracles/rebbes brochos. and to all of u who are convinced that youre goya is great- us jewish moms at the park see the real thing, so stop kidding yourself, and put your kid in the hands of a more worthy subsitute to yourself.

    Kudos
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    Kudos

    Thank you C.S. for handling the situation with lots of grace!

    don't judge
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    don't judge

    what about the jewish babysitter who once shook a baby so badly that the father was arrested on abuse charges? it’s not easy to leave your babies in other peoples care…

    To 11
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    To 11

    No, she told me about this a couple weeks ago. Not the same incident, although I assume its the same babysitter

    to #1
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    to #1

    u funny brew

    cool down people
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    cool down people

    this is pure paranoia

    To 17
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    To 17

    To confirm your assumption – i would greatly appreciate if you would please leave your contact info with Bnos Menachem’s Administrator (D.L.).
    —(Parent of the child)

    to n13 and 19
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    to n13 and 19

    you do not care about your children DO YOU?????????????

    Boils down do you care enough for your children!!!
    Guest
    Boils down do you care enough for your children!!!

    Do you want good chasidishe yrai shomaim learned children
    Or is your temporary convenience mor important ???
    Remember you might have to pay the price later when C”V the children turn out to be bums

    depends
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    depends

    dont go firing your nannys so quick. sandra, moshe holtzbergs nanny, risked her LIFE to save her charge.

    I AM SORRY TO READ
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    I AM SORRY TO READ

    “19
    cool down people
    this is pure paranoia”

    i guess kosher is not the end of the world? RIGHT!!

    TZIVIA  PEKKAR.  [CROWN HEIGHTS].
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    TZIVIA PEKKAR. [CROWN HEIGHTS].

    As a babysitter in Crown Heights for more than twenty years, I have witnessed many, many times, goyishe babysitters feeding you prescious Yiddishe Kinderlach sharing their treife food, even non frum Jewish Russian babysitters feeding your children with treife cookies, plus leaving children outside stores unattended while they shop, so my suggestion is, keep the goyim for cleaning, and pay a Yiddishe Bubby a dollar or two an hour more, and you will be restful with the fact of your Kinderlach are getting kosher food and chinuk. Aren’t your children worth it ?.

    i am the parent of the baby!
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    i am the parent of the baby!

    i am utterly disgusted by what my babysitter did- i can not sleep. many thanks to a caring staff at bnos menachem; you have true ahavs yisroel in taking the time to make sure i found ou about this via the internet.to everyone else- i never leave my child with a goy, this was a one time thing, this babysitter usually just cleans. i sent her with lunch , and luch for my child. i trusted this woman to no end, she is aidel, kind, and smart- but the bottom line is that with all my bases covered, and she… Read more »

    Duh
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    Duh

    I just do not understand why, when parents leave the children with others to care for them, they do not seem to realize the person taking care of your children is actually forging a bond with your child and performing your G-d given duty of raising your children, anytime someone is around your children they will influence them one way or another.

    Please dont judge
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    Please dont judge

    As a working mother, I have no choice but to hire a babysitter to care for my children during the hours I must be at work.
    I do not work for luxuries, it is necesary for making ends meet.
    I am sure there are many others just like me, in the same situation. Al though my babysitter is very trustworthy, she has proven it many times. Still, i am constantly reminding her every day about kashrus, what is allowed and what is not.

    Response to # 4
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    Response to # 4

    How do you know your own nanny is not simply removing suspicion from herself by telling you these stories?

    hidden camera
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    hidden camera

    A friend of my mother installed a video camera (a cheap one) hidden in her bookcase and TOLD her babysitter about it, so she is afraid to do anything wrong to her baby!

    Another observation of anon jewish baby sitter caring for jewish children
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    Another observation of anon jewish baby sitter caring for jewish children

    On chol hamoed at the tzivos hashem kingston ave rides for kids, there was a non jewish baby sitter very lovingly caring for her young charges, stroller and all, however she kept on cursing and getting upset at the yidden in line and on the street when lines were long and ppl passed in fron of the stroler without giving her the right of way, I observed her for a while, She kept on muttering out loud derogatory statements about the yidden around her, Could you imagine the impact on the young children who she adores and adore her in… Read more »

    Bais Medrash Govoha
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    Bais Medrash Govoha

    People! What is the big deal? Back to basics – halacha! The child is a kotton, and likely below the age of chinuch. A Yid cannot feed such a child nevelos but there is no chiyuv n Yidden (aside from the parents) to prevent the child from eating such ‘treif’ foods. That is what Torah says – so why are you becoming frummer then Torah and going ballistic over this nothing of an incident? Your hergeshim doesn’t matter unless they are guided by Halach and Torah. Besides, everything is min hashomayim, and there must be a cheshbon – maybe these… Read more »

    To BMG #32
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    To BMG #32

    You are such a snag. I am not sure if I should laff at you or be sad that HKB”H created such shoytim. You are a perfect example of timtum hamochim v halev. May you have a refuah shlaiyma. Get off the internet and jump into a mikveh.

    #32 - Funny parody
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    #32 - Funny parody

    You got the tone just right. This is exactly what a BMG person would say. But treif is metamtem halev vehamoach, and it’s even worse when one is young and vulnerable. That’s why Moshe Rabbenu was saved from being nursed by the Egyptian women. But to say that all goyim can’t be trusted is just wrong. Anyone who learned in Melbourne YG remembers Luba, the cook, who knew more about kashrus than all the bochurim, and had enough yiras shomayim to put many a chosid to shame. Yes, she was also an ovedes avodo zoro, but she would never give… Read more »

    to -32
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    to -32

    i think you better comment on a borough-park website, where you belong to!

    To 35
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    To 35

    Why should #32 keep his comments off ColLive? We could all use a good laugh and announce: B”H she’hivdilonu min ha’toyim. #32, keep posting your delightful comments!!!

    working mother
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    working mother

    To all those who think all mothers should stay home so we don’t have to hire babysitters- well, who is teaching your daughters in school everyday, or preparing your shaitel for you, etc, etc etc?

    To #34
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    To #34

    Moshe Rabbenu was saved from being nursed by the Egyptian women because of his gadlus – ez pazt nisht for the mekabel haTorah to have nursed from goyish women. This was a midas chassidus because there is absolutely no issur of “treif” on consuming milk nursed from goyim! (It isn’t even Cholov Stam, LOL). That’s why you people need to stick to the basics – Torah & Halacha & Da’as Torah! You can’t just follow your hergeshim until you become a ba’al madreyga. And I will be mo’cha against #33 who called me a shoyteh -you are mevazeh me b’rabim… Read more »

    another story
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    another story

    a boy i know had a goyish babysitter. when mother came home from work, he told her he had a meat and creamcheese sandwhich. the mother asked the babysitter about it, as they had disscussed meat and dairy needed to be separate.
    SHE ANSWERED: oh, don’t worry, i cut he meat with the meat knife and smeared the cheese with the dairy knife!!!!
    you poshut cannot trust them with food, even if they are honest, they cannot understand everything…

    What happened to Ahavas Yisroel!!!
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    What happened to Ahavas Yisroel!!!

    I know everyone is entiltled to their own opinion but there is so much anger in some of these comments! This is not what being a Jew is all about! Dont get me wrong ,have your opinions, but say it in a civilized manner not putting people down or calling people names!! We are all sisters and brothers lets not forget that!! It really upsets me when i read these comments!- we are one nation!!

    32\38 intelligent
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    32\38 intelligent

    I found his\her comments to be innovative and intelligent. These open forums allow everyone to express their thoughts. No need to bash anyone….you can choose not to agree.

    another story
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    another story

    On Chol Hamoed Succos, I saw a goyte taking the 2 children she was caring for (1 whom she called Moishy) on the” taxi” ride in front of Sellebration. The children went a few times on the ride while a frum lady was waiting with her kids to go on the ride. The frum lady said to her “ok, now it’s our turn”. The goyte SCREAMED back, “Oh, no! I’m paying for the ride, they can go as many times as they want, you’re not going to tell me what to do….. she went on and on about it. I… Read more »

    Parents
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    Parents

    Of you were to install a nanny cam in your house. I could 99% guaranty that you would be horrified. Got gave you the precious gift of an additional life. You would not leave a sefer torah with a goy, why your own child?

    No wonder...
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    No wonder...

    No wonder domestic workers are organizing for their rights in N.Y. and other places. Look how little respect these comments show…they are barely thought human. See http://domesticworkersunited.org for more information.

    A frum sitter hit my son...u get what u pay for
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    A frum sitter hit my son...u get what u pay for

    I’ve had horror stories w/ both goyim and yiden as sitters. After A Hispanic/black sitter nearly harmed my baby beyond a cure. For a long while after I had no sitters at all. Then I got an elderly FRUM (my mother’s good friend whom I’d known for yrs) to babysit in a crunch. First day in I walked into the room just as she slapped my wild toddler son accross the face. I was incensed and asked that she leave…I said “why did you do that?” she answered that HE (the 2 yr. old who was simply not used to… Read more »

    Chasdei umos haolam
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    Chasdei umos haolam

    I live in a South American country where the ‘norm’ is to have ‘shikse’. The woman who works in my home has been with me for many years. She prepares my childrens negel vasser at night, reminds my children to make brachos, and makes sure to answer amen!! in a loud voice. My 6 year old son has started to teach her aleph beis! I am lucky that I work in my home, so i am here and aware of what is going on. She is my right hand, knows everything about shabbos (if one of the children ask her… Read more »

    Precious Gems
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    Precious Gems

    A person I know in another neighborhood had a nanny looking after her children for several years, the nanny was quite attached to the children she cared for, one day the mother came home from work looking for her children and nanny. She finally found them upstairs, the nanny who was a devout christian had one foot out the bedroom window with the child in her arms – she had decided she loved the child so much she was going to take him to “G-d, in heaven”. The mother needed to physically battle with the nanny to get the child… Read more »

    Children need their Mommies!
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    Children need their Mommies!

    I totally agree with #40 we all need to have Ahavas Yisrael and be less judgmental (Dan l’kaf z’chus) even to those who we disagree with (and even to our children!) I think that the big problem here is that we picked up on the American cloture where woman must work. Children need their Mommies! Not babysitters. We are in a tough financial time and in many families (including my own) there is no choice but to have the mother work, so there is no reason to judge working mothers, but our community and its children would look a lot… Read more »

    My Bilingual Stove
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    My Bilingual Stove

    My Shikse is very ‘Frum’. Let me tell you some story!!!!
    My Shikse cooked meat & dairy in the same oven!!
    When we asked her how can she do this ??
    She answered ‘Don’t worry!! I put the ‘Flaishik’ on the top shelf & the ‘Milchidiker ‘ pizza on the Bottom shelf!!

    we want moshiach now
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    we want moshiach now

    right now

    oy vay!!
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    oy vay!!

    this should be the last time soMething like this should happen!!
    we want mosheich NOW!!!
    SORRY.

    to 25
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    to 25

    she is the BEST babysitter i have ever hired for my kids. my kids loved her!

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