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    Nanny Was Feeding Non Kosher (2)

    From the COLlive Inbox: I was leaving Lefferts Park today and there was a non-kosher ice cream truck right outside. Full Story

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    MOM
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    MOM

    you should of walked over to the kid and say to him, its not kosher, dont eat it. remind him, the kid may not have thought about the kashrus at all. they are innocent kids. please next time, tell the kid, dont eat it, its not kosher. sing him the uncle moishe song.

    you should also tell the babysitter, not to do that again,or she will lose her job.

    Aaron
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    Aaron

    BS:D
    excellet point ,I am just bewildered why you did not stop him from eating it,I recall seeing a jewish boy walking with a not at all jewish looking fellow, I thought it might be a kid snatching chas v sholom, i jumped out of the car confronted and questioned the fellow until he satisfied me and the little boy verified that indeed he was a relative of the boy

    Crazy!
    Guest
    Crazy!
    Cholov Yisroel
    Guest
    Cholov Yisroel

    It probably was kosher, but not cholov yisroel.

    did u kindly stop her?
    Guest
    did u kindly stop her?

    Not a judgement. just wondering out loud… I would have gone over and mentioned to her that he is not able to eat it.

    TERRIBLE
    Guest
    TERRIBLE

    This is very frightening and if the parents would know how and why this is so detrimental to their child they might only hire frum babysitters or bring them to a frum babysitting service. Maybe someone can be so kind to post the Rebbe”s views on how imp. kashrus is especially for children on this site to enlighten some parents ASAP.

    oh my gosh
    Guest
    oh my gosh

    this is what happens when ppl get non jewish maids/nannies to watch their kids it’s just hoorible i mean if your gonna get a non jewish nanny at least train her.tell her about kosher etc.

    hello?
    Guest
    hello?

    why didnt you go and tell the nanny then and there and thereby prevent the boy from eating non kosher ice cream!
    HELLO WHERE’S YOUR INSTINCT AS A JEWISH PARENT?

    making it clear to the nanny is not enough
    Guest
    making it clear to the nanny is not enough

    I dont think making it clear to a nanny is enough. How can we trust a goy? the goy that is trustable is rare. And only when we determine clearly that a goy is going to listen to us and be responsible should we even consider allowing a goy to babysit our children….in general it is better to find a nice yiddishe lady who is yirat Shomayim to take care of the little ones.

    same article?
    Guest
    same article?

    didnt we read this already??

    take a picture
    Guest
    take a picture

    Today we are all walking around with camera/phones. Next time someone see something like this 1st of all say something. To the kid or nanny 2nd try to take a picture of at least the nanny so the parent could identify her as their nanny.

    omg!!
    Guest
    omg!!

    thats crazy!!!!!!!

    It's kosher not Cholov Yisrael
    Guest
    It's kosher not Cholov Yisrael

    Maybe the parents allow the kid to eat Chalov stam? there are many modern parents out there.

    person who published it
    Guest
    person who published it

    when i first saw her by the truck i thought that we was going to buy him a ice because i know that they sell kosher ices. only a few minutes later did i realize that she bought him the ice cream. i myself was babysitting kids and one ran out of the park so i had to chase after him so i couldnt chase after her. sorry i forgot to include that part in the article. that’s why i published it on here.

    The Lesson - Hen Am Levodo Yishkon, Ubagoyim Loy Yischashov
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    The Lesson - Hen Am Levodo Yishkon, Ubagoyim Loy Yischashov

    The lesson to be learned is that Yidden in general and especially Chassidim should not be partying with “free hot-dogs” with Goyim in the park. The entire environment is a Goyishe Environment and ending up eating Cholov Akum which is metamtem Es Halev, is only a natural outgrowth of such mingling. The Goya who gave the ice Cream was right, in her own mind, seeing that the mother doesn’t mind mingling with goyim and so why not go all the way, the nanny rightfully thought. If hanging around in area where Goyishe Park, where Goyishe Music is looked up to… Read more »

    I AGREE with 11
    Guest
    I AGREE with 11

    Take a picture of the nanny and klid, take the ice cream away form the child DO SOMETHING!!! You saw it you are responsible to help keep this Yiddishe Neshoma safe. If it were my kid CH”V I hope and pray anyone would goover to him and grab the ice creama way before he has a chance to eat the cholov Akum and affect his Yiras Shamayim negatively. ACTION!!!! Don’t be passive!!!!!

    What's Wrong?
    Guest
    What's Wrong?

    If it’s OK to wear a CocaCola Yarmulke, have a little bit of a Chup and to Partially trim the beard then why not Cholov Akum too (as long as it has an “O U Dairy” Kosher symbol? So why is everyone so upset? I don’t see anyone outraged at anyone women who are on Kingston with their hair sticking out of their Tichel, so why be so upset about Cholov Akum? What’s the difference between trimming the beard, womens hair sticking out of the tichel outside, and Cholov Akum as the Misnagdim even justify it as “Cholov Stam” rather… Read more »

    good morning
    Guest
    good morning

    i saw this happening 20 yrs ago! they were buying non kosher MEAT!! They didn’t know i overheard one saying to her friend “the mother won’t know the difference”

    Tip of the iceberg?
    Guest
    Tip of the iceberg?

    When I was a baby, over fifty years ago, my working mother (A”H) fired the housekeeper/babysitter. (In that era, she was referred to as — pardon the expression — a “maid”.) Why did she get fired? Back before Reye’s Syndrome there was something that every family kept in the house, called chewable “Baby Aspirin”. Well, apparently, this employee handled my crying by keeping me asleep as much as possible, frequently giving me “Baby Aspirin”. So, Mommies, there are other things a Nanny (housekeeper/babysitter/maid/goya — whatever euphemism you want to use) might do, which you — the mommy — would not… Read more »

    To # 17
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    To # 17

    What you describe sounds like the way our elected officals look.

    Rabbi
    Guest
    Rabbi

    To 4 and 13 most Poskim hold that “Not Cholov Yisroel” is not Kosher and Chabad if of the same opinion. It’s not like Pas Yisroel that most Poskim hold is just a chumra. People must know that C’L is not a chumra it is Chi-yuv and a few poskim like Rabbi Moshe Fienstein have heterim which were not accepted by most Torah Scholars.

    Looking for a Jewish girl to babysit!
    Guest
    Looking for a Jewish girl to babysit!

    Stories like this convince me. I need someone reliable who loves kids – just 1.5 to 2 hours starting 3:00 pm a few days a week to watch a delicious 2 yr. old. Please email jewishbabysitter@gmail.com.

    halacha
    Guest
    halacha

    don’t hire or leave your kids alone with gentile babysitters! where are the rabbonim on this?

    Yossi
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    Yossi

    The following is a story i heard in shul about 3 weeks ago. There was a very hard Jewish working mother who had a nanny/babysitter that took care of the house most of the day until the mother would come home from work. one day during the period that the mother took off work after giving birth the nanny was less at home since the mother was there, one day the 6 year old just couldn’t stop crying so the ten year old son told his mother why don’t you do what the babysitter does when he cries? what does… Read more »

    To # 20
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    To # 20

    You mean the Vaad?

    Rav in Los Angeles
    Guest
    Rav in Los Angeles

    Rav Shimon Raichik of Los Angeles is very against having a non jewish nanny 4 children. Especially in the house there r many dayos about what u have 2 do if a goy was left alone without supervison. This is a Machlokes in Reshonim

    STUPID!
    Guest
    STUPID!

    you could have gone over to the lady and told her. good point, but ur just fooling yourself1

    to number 22
    Guest
    to number 22

    im great with kids and would LOVE to help you out! id ont live in crown heights:(

    know your babysitter
    Guest
    know your babysitter

    i once saw a babysitter in CH walking a pair of very cute jewish twins, and as she past the church she put them on the grass to take a picture in the nice garden, and the church

    to #17
    Guest
    to #17

    the difference between trimming the beard and eating Cholov Akum is that Cholov Akum is something that is bad for the neshama, and it brings the one eating it to be able to do more like trimming

    To #17
    Guest
    To #17

    I agree with you if we can take all the garbage how the woman dress with short sleeve and low neck line and there hair sticking out and there husband with trim beard
    You are right whats wrong

    What about our Russian ladies?
    Guest
    What about our Russian ladies?

    I see so many Russian ladies watching our children…true, many of them aren’t “frum” as we define it, but they are Jewish Bubbies watching Jewish kids! No one takes care of Yiddishe kinder like Yidden. Hire a Russian lady…they need the work, they are kind & loving, & they won’t give your kid treife. Another thought: how about babysitters (girls who will help after school or people looking for full time work) post their availability in COL’s classifieds? It’s a great service & you get yourself “out there”. Lastly: we need an agency here in CH to supply vetted, responsible… Read more »

    Fed Up
    Guest
    Fed Up

    We overworked mothers also need a life.
    So it happened. For the kid it was unintentional.
    Why not look at the positive side? This babysitter spent her own money on the child. She cares.
    Since when was being frum meant to be a ball-and-chain locked on our feet?

    to 23
    Guest
    to 23

    Puh-leeeeze! The Rabbonim never come out with anything, why start now? You think this issue is important? Have they done anything about kids off the derech, spousal abuse, unTznius dress and behavior? No, they only monitor Machloykes.

    Thanks for my morning giggle.

    Dear Rabbi #21
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    Dear Rabbi #21

    You’re right.

    Now…do you give YOUR children Cholov Akum/Stam? Do YOU personally follow Rav Moshe’s Z”TL Psak? No? Thought not.

    It’s good enough for yenem, but not for you. I rest my case.

    No Tollerance
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    No Tollerance

    It’s amazing to me how little tollerance our own community has for Shomer Shabbos people who live here. Not everyone who lives here is 100 percent Lubavitch. Not everyone who lives here is perfect. Not everyone who lives here is stringinent in all areas. Some people are trying to be more, some people we should be so happy they are trying at all. A community of children of the Rebbe, each one of us a Shliach and we look down so strongly like Lakewooders on our own who are less frum than us. I’m pretty confident it was someone who… Read more »

    i also saw it
    Guest
    i also saw it

    i was there, i was thinking of going over to the boy but did not in the end
    thank you so much for posting this!!!

    chicken and cheese
    Guest
    chicken and cheese

    I have a cleaning lady who i would never leave my children with even when they are sleeping who once was sitting and eating her lunch which consisted of cheese. My toddler was near her in her hi chair eating CHICKEN soup and aked my lady for some cheese. I was right there cooking and right away stopped the situation. THIS IS AFTER YEARS OF TRAINING THE LADY BETWEEN MILK AND MEAT! THEY DON”T GET IT! AND THESE GOYIM WILL NEVER GET IT! What if I stepped out of the room for that split second! Women do you understand what… Read more »

    hello!!!
    Guest
    hello!!!

    If it’s OK to wear a CocaCola Yarmulke, have a little bit of a Chup and to Partially trim the beard then why not Cholov Akum too (as long as it has an “O U Dairy” Kosher symbol? So why is everyone so upset? I don’t see anyone outraged at anyone women who are on Kingston with their hair sticking out of their Tichel, so why be so upset about Cholov Akum? What’s the difference between trimming the beard, womens hair sticking out of the tichel outside, and Cholov Akum as the Misnagdim even justify it as “Cholov Stam” rather… Read more »

    TZIVIA  PEKKAR. [CROWN  HEIGHTS. U.S.A.].
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    TZIVIA PEKKAR. [CROWN HEIGHTS. U.S.A.].

    Why endanger our Yiddishe kinder to be taken care of by any Goy, for this happens all the time. Come on mother’s, pay a few dollars an hour more to a frum Yiddishe lady, then you will surely avoid all these problems, and will know that your kinder are in a worry free environment, regarding Kashrus. Are not your Neshomas worth it?.

    @ #21
    Guest
    @ #21

    there are very few shitos that hold cholov stam is treif, stop spewing incorrect halochos!

    you CANNOT train a goy
    Guest
    you CANNOT train a goy

    Sorry, but as much as you “teach” them and tell them not to give your child trief, they just don’t get it. They think it is ok for icecream, or a cookie, etc. Bottom line is, if you are leaving your child with a goy, then expect your kitchen to be trief and your child to eat it too. I just don’t understand people, you would never leave your expensive jewellry in the hands of your goyishe nanny, but your most precious diamonds, your children are left with them. There are plenty of jewish women who need babysitting jobs.

    to #24
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    to #24

    that is a horrifying story. while i do agree that it is probably better to get a jewish nanny, you can’t really assume that all goyishe nannies will hurt your children and ignore halacha. some people take pride in their work and want to do right by the family. you just need to have a long, hard talk with your babysitter and maybe give them a “quiz” to ensure they know the rules? or have them sign a “contract” and even get it notarized saying that they will follow halacha?

    to 17
    Guest
    to 17

    at least people are outraged about this!! should we let this go to? obviously not.

    Elki
    Guest
    Elki

    Women should hire non-Jewish housekeepers to clean the house in order to free the mother to watch her children. If the mother works, just as she wouldn’t leave the child alone, she should persevere until she gets a Jewish babysitter.
    If the mother does not work, there is no excuse for leaving a child with a non-Jewish nanny/baby-sitter.

    wow so many judgmental comments
    Guest
    wow so many judgmental comments

    all these judgmental comments just shows how many (sadly), judgmental people there are in chabad. How do you know that she didn’t go over to the boy/babysitter and tell them? how do you know that she didn’t try? and if she didn’t’ go to them maybe she had a good reason. It’s all very possible and probable. This was written to bring out a point- that non Jewish babysitters can feed Jewish kids non kosher food. Be a little smart and not so narrow minded Don’t be so quick to point fingers, it shows very not good on you.. you… Read more »

    Chill out
    Guest
    Chill out

    Whats wrong with just letting the kid eat his ice cream?

    way to go #17!!!
    Guest
    way to go #17!!!

    I completely agree!

    hgkdf
    Guest
    hgkdf

    i think that if a nanny works for a lot of jewish familys then she knows not to feed them not kosher…

    this happens very often
    Guest
    this happens very often

    you can add yoshke-song-singing-to-jewish-kids to the list
    get a jewish babysitter
    your child is worth nothing less
    it’s all about how important it is to you

    CH Mom
    Guest
    CH Mom

    A goy does not have the concept of yiras shomayim, to the extent that we do. While, yes, she may want to please her employer, and will generally follow instructions given to her about milk/meat/kosher, a goy can not understand why even a tiny drop of something not allowed to us, is very serious. She may likely be innocently just trying to make the child happy, because she, yes, cares about your child. But your child’s spiritual care is not her domain. Don’t rely on training your goyishe nanny and then depending on her yiras shomayim. It’s just not there!

    to #49
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    to #49

    you rae being naive-
    some simply don’t care
    a friend of mine saw a nanny giving a crown heights child treif, lo aleinu, ON KINGSTON AVENUE
    she walked over to the nanny and told her that the food was not kosher and that she wasn’t allowed to give it to the child,
    the nanny told her to mind her own business and walked away…

    to #46
    Guest
    to #46

    you yourself are being judgemental by accusing others of being judgemental…
    practice what you preach from your high and mighty throne

    to #17
    Guest
    to #17

    you should read up about what Rabbi Moshe Feinstein a”h
    says about cholov akum-it is only for rare cases that he allows it, definitely not in a city where cholov yisroel abounds…
    besides…
    people should correct everything they do that is wrong, and definitely not say, I do this and this already anyways so why also not do this….
    every mitzva that IS done properly is a step in the right direction

    The point is...
    Guest
    The point is...

    that jewish babysitters would do a BETTER job. If you have a non jewish one your satisfied with, ok, but seriously, would you want YOUR kids to be treated to trief or horrible treatment by a non jewish nanny?! I think NOT.

    yikes!!!!
    Guest
    yikes!!!!

    you can train a shigsa all you want but a goy is a goy and that mean that a goy will NEVER have any yiras shomaim. a goy will never truly care when it comes to halacha. will a goy ask the rav a shailah? no! she figures as long as no one see she’s safe. moms how do you sleep peacefully at night? may Hashem protect your kids, cuz you sure are not doing your job!!!!

    from a book
    Guest
    from a book

    from http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/the-laws-of-yichud/11.htm by Rabbi Dubov One should not employ a woman — Jewish or not — who is a prutzah to babysit even if there are effective shomrim available. This should be avoided not so much for Yichud considerations (since halachically a child shomer is effective even for a prutzah[339]) as for tznius considerations. A word of caution — when employing a non-observant babysitter for observant children, one should give the babysitter certain guidelines: 1. she should be dressed in a manner of tznius; 2. she should be told about Kashrus, e.g. she should not offer the children any foods… Read more »

    the truck
    Guest
    the truck

    the message on the truck says it all” “Watch children!”

    To #8 and all others like that:
    Guest
    To #8 and all others like that:

    maybe the person who wrote this article was like a block away or something or was just passing by and saw it??? who are YOU to judge??

    this reminds me
    Guest
    this reminds me

    of when i saw one of the russian lady -babysiters taking a baby is a stroller for a walk and decided to stop by the church on union and brooklyn…– I followed the lady for about an hour around ch, until she went home with the baby, so I can tell the mother about her child’s outing that day.

    to 60
    Guest
    to 60

    i saw the same thing happen

    THIS IS THE SADDEST THING I'VE READ IN A LONG TIME
    Guest
    THIS IS THE SADDEST THING I'VE READ IN A LONG TIME

    WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL
    “TAKE A PICTURE OF THE KID EATING AN ICE-CREAM”
    IS THIS A TALLIBAN??
    DONT JUDGE OTHERS – WE DONT KNOW THE SITUATION
    I COULD TELL YOU THING HAPPENING TO YOUR KINDS IN CROWN HTS AT THIS VERY SECOND THAT WOULD BLOW YOU TO PIECES AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO READ A WEEK BEFORE ROSH HASHANAH.
    CHILL OUT!!

    To 33
    Guest
    To 33

    “…Fed Up We overworked mothers also need a life. So it happened. For the kid it was unintentional. Why not look at the positive side? This babysitter spent her own money on the child. She cares. Since when was being frum meant to be a ball-and-chain locked on our feet?….. “”” Are you kidding??! I read through all the comments and cant believe no one responded to you.. It was unintentional for the child?! At least the babysitter cares? No matter how hardworking you are, and how open-minded you are- as opposed to all of us horrified “ball-and-chain locked on… Read more »

    to # 59
    Guest
    to # 59

    i agree with you

    To # 39
    Guest
    To # 39

    “and Cholov Akum as the Misnagdim even justify it as “Cholov Stam” rather than the “dirty word” Cholov Akum, we chassidim call it.”

    How did the Misnagdim issue get into here, it’s erev R’H, let’s not start Criticizing others, needlessly. Do you know how much Lakewood raised for SMR as 3 of their own schools are closing for financial reasons.

    B"H
    Guest
    B"H

    Please remember who saved Moshe Holtzberg….

    Fed up
    Guest
    Fed up

    To #63
    Perhaps you need a lesson or two.
    Mitzvois are not given for reasons. Even explanations in Zohar or Tanya. A mitzva is a mitzva. A shoygeg is a shoygeg. (Incidentally if it was beshoygeg perek 8 in Tanya doesn’t apply.)
    You Lubavitchers have made your own Torah, and are clueless about the Ancient-Current tradition and Halacha-Hashkafa of Klal Yisroel.
    You should go gt yourself a life and a Moshiach (with life.)

    B"H
    Guest
    B"H

    From Halocho point of view always there is a need of Yotze Venichnas. Ask neighbors to go in your house from time to time unannounced just to check.

    Non-Kosher???
    Guest
    Non-Kosher???

    First of all the picture above displays a non-NY plate Ice Cream truck. All ICE Cream tryucks in NYC require a NY plates. I doubt if this image was taken by the “concerned parent” or taken from google images for a dramatic approach… In any case 90% of the ice cream trucks in the NYC region carry KOSHER ICE CREAM! Don’t believe me, contact the vendor directly – Don’t just assume its not kosher. Assuming its not kosher dosn’t make it non-kosher. We are commanded as Jews to ask questions, not just accept what people say blindly, which btw the… Read more »

    who will your child be?
    Guest
    who will your child be?

    i have been babysitting here for many years every time this happens we talk then go on letting this happen and worse please take this very carefully and not let your children be watched by goyim this is just one thing to happen there are many more that i have seen that are worse and they can be so nice and not do this but they are with your children showing them things we should not do and see they influence your child in ways beyond giving a ice cream they meet other goyim in the park talk and say… Read more »

    to # 46
    Guest
    to # 46

    so let’s just frei out and be good chabad people – unjudgemental…

    Explain to your CHILDREN
    Guest
    Explain to your CHILDREN

    Once I heard a goy talking to a 5 and 3 years old (without the parents around) that he´ll buy a chocolate and give them. I call them and said – you know that the chocolate he´ll give is not kosher, but if he does give you, Do you know what you do? Throw it in the garbage. They were so impress – It´s such a great idea! They didn´t think about it themselves but I open their mind, even it was obvious for me, for them it wasn´t.

    to 71 from 46
    Guest
    to 71 from 46

    That is is completely nonsensical. I suggest you read the article if you did not already. People are attacking the author for not going over to the boy/babysitter and telling him not to eat the ice cream. We don’t know if she did or didn’t. and if she didn’t ,why she did not. she wrote an article to bring out a point in order to make parents more aware. There is no reason to attack the author and call nasty names like stupid, what does this has to do with freing out? However people who are chabad should be extra… Read more »

    maybe...
    Guest
    maybe...

    maybe it was oud.
    Not everyone keeps cholov yisroel.

    TO 41 @ #21  and 69
    Guest
    TO 41 @ #21 and 69

    41 @ #21 there are very few shitos that hold cholov stam is treif, stop spewing incorrect halochos! WRONG! Cholov Yisroel is a din, not a minhag. And Chabad for sure holds that it is not permissible. I know of a shliach in the FSU who got an entire container of cholov akum, and the rav paskened that they could not give it to Jews — even if they were scrounging in garbage cans for food. He said sell it and use the money to buy kosher food for the Yidden! 69 — It does not matter about pumping vs.… Read more »

    Oy...
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    Oy...

    Ok… 1) can’t we all just get along? 2) Maybe the nanny cares bout the kid, and maybe she doesn’t, but that’s not the matter at hand. It’s that this pure neshama is getting dirtied by eating treif or chalav akum! If the parents of the child hold themselves to chalav yisroel then for them it IS treif! The point is that we must be careful with who we trust our children to. Our children are priceless, and we want only the best for them. You only have one shot at raising them, because once they grow up it’s over.… Read more »

    I'd seen it myself about 20 years ago
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    I'd seen it myself about 20 years ago

    Two frum looking kids were sitting with a shiksa outside of KFC eating something off a plate….I approached the Shiksa to ask who she worked for and she woudn’t tell me….I then asked the kids their names…. I figured out who they were, non lubavitch and called the grandfather of the kids, because I knew him from a store he owned… A day later, I get this nasty call from the mother, How dare I!! THe shiksa is a shiksa of their family for many years….they trust her….she was probably just feeding them french fries…. (I told her fried in… Read more »

    action
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    action

    it seems as if you were just standing there staring at the boy while he ate his ice cream, you shouldve went over to the nanny and calmy explained to her that the boy cannot have the ice cream instead of just stairing.

    TO 78
    Guest
    TO 78

    MAYBE SHE COULDN’T FOR WHATEVER REASON?!? WHAT ARE YOU MADE OF, BLACK & WHITE?

    to 77
    Guest
    to 77

    sad story with a good point, but I wouldn’t get into the “her children are still single and waiting” your are not god so you don’t pretend like one, as it seems you are implying from reading between the lines of your comment. just be careful

    number one and eight
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    number one and eight

    U guys are so rude. Some people were born differently then others. Meaning, some are shy and more fearful then others. MAYBE SHE WAS SHY OF GOING UP TO A NANNY AND SAY, “You cant feed that to him”

    Better to find a frum sitter
    Guest
    Better to find a frum sitter

    There are plenty of problems with non frum Jews as well. 2 examples: Despite my strict rules for my kids about eating candy, a Russian woman who worked for me would buy them candy every day after I left for work and let them go to sleep with lollypops in their mouths! My oldest was almost 4 and when she told me about it I was horrified. But I spoke to the woman and figured it would stop. About a week later I found a small bag on the window sill with candy wrappers in it. They were not candies… Read more »

    Anyone who can deffend Cholov Akum
    Guest
    Anyone who can deffend Cholov Akum

    All the commenter’s here defending Cholov Akum as though it was Chas Vesholom OK….. No wonder we elected this kind of a Vaad recently? As for any kind (there are many) of Kosher Supervising agency who says there is no problem with non-cholov Yisroel….: You need to take their word with a grain of salt. “look who is talking” and what are the standards of such a “kosher” supervising agency. Any “kosher” supervising agency who OK’s Cholov Akum, does so for business reasons and they don’t guarantee how your children will come out after drinking their Cholov Akum…. Not only… Read more »

    TO 83
    Guest
    TO 83

    What should we ask agency’s who DON’T drink Cholov Akum and have problems with child abuse, suicides,’orientation’ and worse? your narrow mindedness and blatant insensitivity is embarrassing. It’s a good thing you didn’t write your name 🙂

    person who wrote the article
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    person who wrote the article

    wow! so many comments didn’t expect it.
    i wasn’t able to go up to them i was with a bunch of other little kids and wasn’t close to them, that’s why
    i made sure to write a article to made it clear to parents
    what might be happening to thier kids while they are
    away from them. Thanks for all the comments though!
    maybe next time i’ll try to go over to them even if i am with a bunch of kids and a mile away! don’t judge to quick!

    to 83
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    to 83

    I’d like to know, what have you been drinking? want to make sure I don’t get whatever you have

    To # 75...
    Guest
    To # 75...

    Every non Chalav Yisrael milk brand with an OU certification have a mahgiach on the premis. Otherwise, they cannot put the OU logo on the milk container….

    And BTW, to those of you who say that a Goy doesn’t have yirath shamayim, think again.. There are some great non Jewish people with more of a Jewish neshama than some Jews….

    ooookkk
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    ooookkk

    taake, mamesh everybody is right

    No Choice
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    No Choice

    Perhaps if there were GOOD places in Crown Heights to leave your child, people wouldn’t use non-Jewish nannies. The daycare choices for those who need longer hours than 9-2 are extremely limited with each group that has long hours being overcrowded – up to 40 kids in one basement. Is that better?

    This is a religious and Lubavitch website
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    This is a religious and Lubavitch website

    #75: You’re funny–they have more a Jewish neshama than some Jews? Granted, they might be great, even Righteous Gentiles of the chasidei umos ha’olam—but only Jews have a Neshama, a chelek eloka mima’al mamosh. P.s. to all those posters who are bashing Chabad hashkafa and our poskim’s halacha: this is a lubavitcher site. We believe that cholov akum is not allowed (as did R’ Moshe Feinstein, excepting those cases where there were no other choices plus more restrictions…) and that, furthermore, it is metamei the heart and mind of a Jew. We will not judge you–but we have the right… Read more »

    to # 66, this woman was an exception
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    to # 66, this woman was an exception

    and rivkah did her best to be around moshe. you may not be aware of it,but there are farmers who add pig milk to pass inpection from the gov’t,as far as l know,they can’t tell the differece, l once went with mindy feller and nechama baumgarten to a farm to watch the milk and the farmer said that he was having inspection tomarrow,so we did not take this milk,they were fortuate that the farmer was honest-serel maness

    to # 87
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    to # 87

    You sound like you might be one of those “Goyim” who think they are Jewish and even “more Jewish” than Jews.

    Those who think so are are called J. for J.

    To # 75...
    Guest
    To # 75...

    Every non Chalav Yisrael milk brand with an OU certification have a mahgiach on the premis. Otherwise, they cannot put the OU logo on the milk container….

    And BTW, to those of you who say that a Goy doesn’t have yirath shamayim, think again.. There are some great non Jewish people with more of a Jewish neshama than some Jews….

    I know
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    I know

    I know people who use Chalav Akum and they have serious Sfekus in Emunah.

    you get what you pay for...
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    you get what you pay for...

    dont want to spend money on your child’s care? dont expect good service- and definitely don;t fool yourself into thinking: “she REALLY loves my kids and follows ALL the rules!”
    A GOY IS A GOY>

    IF YOU CARED ABOUT YOUR KID_ DON”T DO IT!

    Dearest Fed Up,
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    Dearest Fed Up,

    Dearest Fed Up, my fellow sister, Hi, it’s me again! Please read this with an open mind, I am not trying to attack you. Well, dear, guess what? It is no made-up Lubavitch Torah… Of course, Kabolas Ol is #1, we do Mitzvos for no reason other than that because they are G-d given… But before knocking what it says in Tanya, just read it! It very much applies even bshoygeg.. if your mouth is where your money is, you’’ actually read through it… Here goes: Likutei Amarim, Chapter 8 “ועוד זאת במאכלות אסורות, שלכך נקראים בשם איסור There is… Read more »

    To #32
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    To #32

    Don’t kid yourself! The Russian “Bubbies” are just as bad!

    hey,
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    hey,

    instead of criticizing, let’s thank the author for taking the time to write and bringing it to our attention 😉

    Solution
    Guest
    Solution

    Learn Spanish and teach them.kashrus.

    what
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    what

    hey from 47 whats wrong it was not kosher. you shold have stopd the boy from eating it.

    ice cream trucks
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    ice cream trucks

    The nanny might have thought this is the KOSHER ice cream truck from the country which comes around many many times to our bungalows. Let’s TEACH her that in Crown Heights they are not Penina’s ice cream or a kosher truck. She might have truly not known-been confused and might be a very incredible nanny.

    NON JEWISH BABYSITTERS
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    NON JEWISH BABYSITTERS

    WHY IN THE WORLD DOES ANYONE ST8LL HAVE NON JEWISH PEOPLE TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN. I KNOW PERSONALLY OF CASES WHERE THEY GAVE THE IKIDS TREIFE MEAT AND SAID (ACTUALLY SAID) THE PARENTS WON’T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. AND THAT’S THE LEAST OF IT. PARENTS OUGHT TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT THESE CHILDREN ARE OUR TREASURES AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH. THERE ARE PLENTY OF JEWSH PEOPLE LOOKNG FOR WORK. YES THEY MIGHT COST A LITTLE MORE, BUT YOU WOULD PAY ANY PRICE FOR YOUR HUMAN HAIR WIG ETC. ISN’T YOUR CHILD WORTH MORE?????

    Confused in Canada
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    Confused in Canada

    To #83 I fail to see the connection between electing a Vaad and defending Cholov Akum. 1) Since the Vaad was elected by the majority of residents and the vast majority of posters are proponents of Cholov Yisroel, it is only logical that the Vaad was elected by proponents of Cholov Yisroel. 2) The author of the article was simply trying to warn the reader about the possibility that their nanny / caregiver could be giving something to their child that the parent would not agree to if he / she new about it. To an outsider this seems like… Read more »

    PLEASE READ THIS!!!
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    PLEASE READ THIS!!!

    Please realize, people have different standards about eating however even if you arent Lubavitch or Frum, people must realize, chalov akom is not kosher!!!!!!! This cant go unpassed! And here i sit, ready to cry because i read comments and some pplz saying, “Chill out. so what if they eat chalav akom?” SOMEONE-ANYONE AGREE WITH ME?!?!?!?

    to104
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    to104

    I agree with you, however you still have to realize that even in ch people have different standards,( Thank g-d the vast majority do eat chalov yisroel) that is just the reality. coming on them aggressively will not help the situation which is what many well meaning people do.

    True story
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    True story

    An adult friend of mine recently told me a story of when she was 4 years old. Her mother had a regular appointment on Sundays and would leave her with “the live-in maid”. One Sunday the maid was off and the mother took her to the park and they passed a church nearby. The little Jewish girl (my friend) crossed herself. The mother freaked out and asked her why she did that? – The answer was that that’s where she goes every Sunday with the maid!!!!!!!

    106
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    106

    that is terrible 🙁
    yeah i think it’s def worth it to leave children with frum babysitters, whatever the cost may be

    WARNING
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    WARNING

    One point which HASN’T been brought up, and happened to me! You may want to post this separately as a warning: My cleaning lady ONLY eats what I feed her! She is ONLY a cleaning lady, NOT A babysitter!! Once, I made her a peanut butter sandwich and paper bagged it for her bus ride home! (it was erev pesach, and couldn’t feed her much else) On her way out, I had to run an errand, I put my children in the car, asked her to stand by for a minute while I ran in (probably to put on my… Read more »

    yeah right
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    yeah right

    based on how many young mothers dress in this neighborhood, i would not be surprised that the babysitter had a reshus from the parents to feed this boy non-kosher food

    seriously???
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    seriously???

    I don’t get it. Chabad purports itself to be open minded and love your fellow Jew. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar after all. Why is it that those on shlichus can be accepting of all Jews no matter what their level of observance but within Chabad communities you find the most hostile and judgemental chabadniks around?? And you wonder why there are Chabad kids that go off the derech??? Hello! I think the open mindedness and love for your fellow Jew begins at home- in your own neighborhood. Stop judging others for wearing a tichel instead of… Read more »

    Can't believe it.
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    Can't believe it.

    I am really offended by the way some of you speak so rudely of “goyim” which in itself is an offensive term. You cannot lump all non Jewish people into one category and say they are all cheaters and “untrainable!” Have you learned nothing from the Holocaust? Do you want them to speak of us Jews that way? I am more concerned about the obnoxious way some of you speak of non Jews than the fact the one Jewish boy may have mistakenly eaten some ice cream. And you have no proof the sitter wasn’t Jewish. Judaism is a religion,… Read more »

    Maybe it was a kosher ice cream truck
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    Maybe it was a kosher ice cream truck

    I’m sorry this post didin’t go up earlier on but in any case I hope people see it. Earlier on this week (maybe Monday or Tuesday) there was a KOSHER ice cream truck outside of Lefferts Park at around 4/5o’clock. Not many people went to it maybe because they didn’t realize it was kosher though it DEFINITELY was! It was an ice cream truck from upstate probably trying to “chap arein” some last chances for bussiness. As I was leaving the park It started to pull away until the ice cream man saw a nanny with a boy around 5… Read more »

    109
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    109

    Your obviously a cynic. I would be surprised despite how they dress.

    ceo
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    ceo

    we all got here to this world because our alte bubbehs were not working women. Now I am not saying that women should not work because money is so incredibly hard to come by, but it is so crucial that we monitor our activites and how things go. and its really important to try to get work either during school hours or get a degree in something you can do from the home. Whatever it is, you just have to try to be careful and do your best. Thats what comes as rsponsibility when working out of the home…..

    at the store today Thurs. Sep 2, 2010
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    at the store today Thurs. Sep 2, 2010

    I happened to be shopping at the local supermarket today and as I was getting ready to leave after paying etc. I turned to leave and noticed a toddler whose age is about 13-16 months. He was fastened into his seatbelt of his stroller (the three wheel jogger style) at the entrance/exit of store and he was munching on something (a cookie perhaps.) Then I noticed he suddenly started gagging on his snack/food. I immediately went over to try to help him dislodge the food stuck in his throat and then noticed he was left unattended. After about a minute… Read more »

    Please be noten l'kaf sechus!
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    Please be noten l'kaf sechus!

    All of you who are recommending that someone should have snatched away the ice cream, please think of the consequences of such an action! A young child completely innocent enjoying a treat which may not be kosher, and suddenly a complete stranger barges in and snatches away the treat and throws it in the garbage! What do you think causes more damage to the precious neshoma? Inadvertently eating a snack with a questionable provenance or the trauma of having this treat snatched away! The snatching away is something that the child will remember for the rest of his life and… Read more »

    yiddishe kinderlach at risk
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    yiddishe kinderlach at risk

    # 33 you make me sick with your statements

    please make sure that there is food in your home for your children
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    please make sure that there is food in your home for your children

    somebody told me the story, when she work as a babysitter mother usually don’t left food for children, expert for cookies, ice cream , etc, when the lady eats her not kosher lunch children was hungry and she share her food with them…she is very-very nice lady, she came from Russia and she really did not no the difference …

    misplaced pity
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    misplaced pity

    I am incredulous when I read comments that so indignantly defend our hired-help from racial comments like “goya”/ “shiksa” even going as far as claiming that this could even lead to a holocaust G-D Forbid. Or saying Be dan L’kaf Z’chus – they are human beings like you and me and deserving of respect. In truth I think that these types of comments – or worse the one about not snatching the forbidden food away would cause irreparable psychological religious associations for the youngster (and if it was poison?), come from youthful inexperience and naivete. The fact is that Rashi… Read more »

    Kosher
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    Kosher

    Actually I think that we should be more tolerant. Allow the Nanny’s to but what they want, allow our children to dress the way they want to, don’t say a waord when you see a young teenager with a yarmulka on his head carrying skates on Shabbos and in generqal, lets be open minded and lets allow everyone to do as they please. So What? Who cares? Its non of your business…

    Still can't believe it
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    Still can't believe it

    to #119- Let me assure you I am neither a youth or naive. Thinking that people of a different religion all hate us is ignorant and just plain prejudiced. It’s too bad you had a bad experience with your employee, but after giving you 4 years of service, maybe she finally realized what you really thought of her and decided to confirm your assumptions. This will be my last comment on this matter as this whole discussion has gotten ridiculous.

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