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    Measles Feared in Kfar Chabad

    More than 1,000 people may have been exposed to measles at two events held in Kfar Chabad, Israel over the past week, raising fears of a mass outbreak. Full Story

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    Vaccinate
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    Vaccinate

    Why aren’t Chabad rabbonim making clear requirements for all parents to vaccinate they’re children this is literally life and death,?

    This is sad
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    This is sad

    Considering that the Rebbe was absolutely clear an unequivocal about getting vaccinated, it’s sad that some people in Kfar Chabad of all places would ignore the Rebbe.

    Yo number 2
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    Yo number 2

    Please don’t make such a blanket statement without a source

    to #1 - rav Shochet in toronto
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    to #1 - rav Shochet in toronto

    #1 Rav Shochet in Toronto along with other rabbanim in town, wrote clearly that one is hallachically obligated to vaccinate according to the official schedule of the province of ontario. It is so unfortunate that many are so frum when it comes to pitty things but left their kids unvaccinated going clearly against halacha as written and signed by Rav D Shochet .

     Is this the first time measles is in kfar chabad?
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    Is this the first time measles is in kfar chabad?

    Why is this news?
    Measles is in Israel every year.

    To #1
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    To #1

    Because it’s not so black and white and for as many that say you must, there are as many Rabbanim who also understand that for some children vaccines aren’t safe.

    Well
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    Well

    People didn’t want to listen to the Rebbe about not drinking all that mashke, they didn’t listen on vaccinations..and now kids are getting hurt

    To #4
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    To #4

    Exception doesn’t make the rule.

    Number 2
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    Number 2

    Unequivocal? In every letter that the Rebbe supported vaccines the Rebbe also said one much research which is the best company etc. Have you done your research? My guess is you haven’t. Do you know which manufacturer maker purer vaccines with less cross contamination? Glaxosmithkline, merk, Pfizer etc. An independent study in Italy by Corvelva, just showed an internationally used vaccine (infanrix) by GSK to have an enormous rate of cross contamination and no antigens in the vaccine at all! Which means no antibodies for you and no immunity. You need to follow the other half of the Rebbes horaa… Read more »

    MMR
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    MMR

    Number 9 let’s assume what your saying is true (and I highly doubt it) why wouldn’t Chabad rabbonim at least demand everyone take the measles vaccine bc that’s what’s going around now and when contacted can be ready for some?

    Mute point
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    Mute point

    It seems very odd that the only major frum group without clear directive as to vaccinations is Chabad leaving ppl to decide for them selves and seriously put ppl at risk and not take the chabad Rabbinic authority seriously.

    Number 1
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    Number 1

    Maybe they know enough vaccine injured kids to not halachically require something that has risks. Even if there are benefits (including herd immunity if you believe in that), one cannot deny the risks and because of the risks, therefore there is no room in halacha to force vaccinations on people, especially when one knows their child is predisposed to a bad reaction (because they have already occured in your family or because of autoimmune conditions in your family), whether or not your doctor will admit it, they certainly aren’t required halachically to vaccinate. The halacha is vnishmartem meod es nafshosechem.… Read more »

    Shoddy vaccine safety research /vaccine injury is REAL
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    Shoddy vaccine safety research /vaccine injury is REAL

    Over 175 Peer reviews have proven how dangerous Vaccines are Decades of studies published in the world’s leading medical journals have documented vaccine failure and serious adverse vaccine events, including death. Dozens of books written by doctors, researchers, and independent investigators reveal serious flaws in immunization theory and practice. Yet, incredibly, most pediatricians and parents are unaware of these findings. This has begun to change in recent years, however, as a growing number of parents and healthcare providers around the world are becoming aware of the problems and questioning mass mandatory immunization. “Safety testing of many vaccines is limited and… Read more »

    To number 9
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    To number 9

    I’m glad that point was mentioned and I want to add that more and more whistle blowers formally employed by the vaccine manufacturing industry have made statements in that same vein.

    To #12
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    To #12

    Not sure what a mute point is. A point that can’t speak? I think you meant “moot point”.

    Number 10
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    Number 10

    Because it doesn’t work.
    The fully vaccinated are getting measles.

    Measles
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    Measles

    90% of nonimmunized people will get measles from being exposed. The virus lives for up to 48 hours, and is carried in the air. Complications include pneumonia and meningitis.
    Learn about how studies are done.
    Understand what metadata means.
    50+ years of data from around the world shows that vaccines save lives.
    Herd immunity fails when vaccination rates drop below 80%
    This means that infants and those with suppressed immune systems (e.g. cancer patients) are in danger of losing their lives.

    Stop making a big deal!!!
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    Stop making a big deal!!!

    Even if everyone gets measles they will get better unlike Autism from which they will never recover!!!!
    The notion that parents who simply don’t want autistic children are at fault for this is a brazen blood libel!!!

    A teacher who usually doesn't comment
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    A teacher who usually doesn't comment

    My sister developed incephalitus, inflammation of the lining of the brain, and was in a coma for over a week. One never knows what could happen or not. We need to use tools at our disposal wisely.

    #18 stop sprouting garbage
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    #18 stop sprouting garbage

    There are many reasons for someone to choose not to immunize their children but autism is not a reason . You do not get autism from immunizations . It has been proven time and time again. And for all the people claiming vaccinations are unsafe and there are studies to prove it, there are just as many studies showing that they are safe and save lives. It’s what you are choosing to read because you have already decided that they are bad. G-D has given us the cure and you are throwing it back at Him.

    To 20
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    To 20

    Vaccine injury is REAL and the national vaccine injury court has awarded over 4 billion dollars in compensation to date for victims of adverse reactions including those to families who lost a child. This is a fact for those who are concerned about these legitimate risks are hardly “sprouting garbage”
    You did acknowledge that there is research for both sides . This is a free society and people have the choice to decide which research they choose to believe and base their decisions as such!

    To #18
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    To #18

    Cut out the autism shtick. It seems that no one even knows what autism is these days (myself included). What I do know however is that the vaccination thing is shtus and that many doctors feel the need to put children “on the spectrum” is very high

    Conspiracy theories
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    Conspiracy theories

    Why is it ok to believe in these conspiracy theories about vacation all look wich have been disapproven over and over again seriously there needs to be by leaders setting people straight.

    False alarm
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    False alarm

    According to The World Health Organization, In the US in 1980s, there were thousands of cases of measles and Nobody was worried about it. 1989 had 18,000 cases, 1990 had 27,000 cases! 1980 had 13,500 cases. I was in high school then, and nobody was worried about it. Now, everyone is losing their mind over less than 10% of those numbers and the population is larger now, so the decline in rate of incidence is even less. Israel has a simil as e story. But, it has had a higher rate of incidence than the US for measles historically in… Read more »

    The Rebbe's letter
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    The Rebbe's letter

    One of the rebbe’s letters re vaccines is in igros kodesh volume 14 p 357

    Read the entire letter. Notice the part about finding the safest, most reputable pharmaceutical companies. (hint: there aren’t any).

    25 there are
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    25 there are

    Ask your doctor, a real doctor, and he will tell you the reputable vaccines just like when he tells you what you need to save a life when there’s a heart attack, stroke or anything else. Please don’t tell me you will use ‘essential oils’ to remove a brain tumor!

    Educate yourself
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    Educate yourself

    Nobody needs to be smarter than the Institute of Medicine. The latest IOM vaccine safety report clearly states The MMR has a causal relationship to seizures. And after all stu, dies they cannot rule out encephalopathy, ataxia, ADEM, meningitis… All of these are brain injury that results in autistic type of behavior. So maybe it does not bring autism, it just brings brain injury that causes those type of behaviors… It’s so stupid to take a vaccine against measles. Measles is not dangerous it usually passes between 7 to 10 days. The CDC is making a panic to create a… Read more »

    Serious stuff
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    Serious stuff

    I have been following these comments with interest because I would have thought there would have been many more than there are. Measles is such a serious, dreaded disease, and there seems to be an attitude by many young people that its not such a big deal. This is due to the fact that young people grew up in a time that it was basically eradicated and dont know what it is. #24 cites statistics showing how there were so many cases in the 80s and early 90s and she/he was in high school and doesn’t remember it as such… Read more »

    Nobody worried in the 80's and 90's?!
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    Nobody worried in the 80's and 90's?!

    In 1964 my mother gave birth to a deaf mute child due to be in contact with a child with reballa (German measels. The “R” of MMR

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