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    Lying Butcher Becomes Kosher

    After the Massachusetts Attorney fined the Gordon and Alperin Butcher Shop in Newton for advertising their store as Kosher when they were not, the Rabbinical Council of Massachusettes has said they will now be certifying the store. Full Story

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    born in Worc.
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    born in Worc.

    I thought that hechsher was out of Worcester? Is there a different one out of Worcester? Is it the same one that’s on Hebert Candies’ boxes of chocolates? (Yum!)

    Don't call him a liar.
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    Don't call him a liar.

    The butcher did not lie. He was kosher the whole time. He was selling the same meat without the hechsher that he had been selling with it. Just because he didn’t want to pay for a hechsher, did that magically make the meat treif?! He didn’t pretend to have a hashgocho. So why shouldn’t he tell the truth, that he sells kosher meat? If this Lubavitcher rabbi helped write a law that makes it a crime to tell the truth then he needs to do teshuvah, and maybe refund the $1000 that the butcher lost because of his wrong law.

    How Do You Know It Was Kosher?
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    How Do You Know It Was Kosher?

    How does anyone know what meat he was selling. This is not Prepackaged meat it is cut up meat. It could come from anywhere. This owner is not Shomer Shabbos and at the same time he was also subletting the deli next door to him which was definately not kosher.

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    1) KVH is Boston.

    2) Halacha is halacha. Under those circumstances he must have supervision because if he is not frum he has no neemonus.

    Even if he was honest he might not know that meat was snuck in, that something was substituted, that it came into contact with hot milk or cheese etc.

    $1000 is a slap on the wrist for what he did which is consumer fraud even without the specific law. At least he made amends and is doing things right but it was only because of the law that he did what he should.

    to number 1
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    to number 1

    the hechsher on herbert candies is WVH – Worcester Vaad Haair and is the hechsher of Rabbi Hershel Fogelman

    KVH not reliable
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    KVH not reliable

    This guy sat in Jail. I don’t know how the KVH could certify them. Most of the major hechsherim like OU or OK don’t accept the KVH. KVH is a division of the Synagogue Council of Mass. and also has Conservative Rabbis. The Rebbe warned us many years ago about not joining this org

    #6 do you know what you're talking about
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    #6 do you know what you're talking about

    wondering where you live & how much you know…. kvh is a frum hechsher with frum mashgichim. synagogue council of MA is a separate entity which – true – we would not be a part of. & btw, do you know ricardo & that he sat in jail or is that hearsay? I live pretty close by & never heard that one! I am not saying everything was good there – how can we trust a place without a hechsher – but he’s not a bad guy – just ignorant of the importance of a hechsher – & true –… Read more »

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