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Let’s Talk Disproportionality

Rabbi Yitzchok Schochet calls out British radio host James O'Brien who's been wondering why he is being labeled an anti Semite. Full Story

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He is antisemitic
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He is antisemitic

I disagree with R Shochet. However nice O’Brien may be in person, he clearly is antisemitic. He undoubtedly believes that it is acceptable for a nation under attack to go to war, in the full knowledge that this will inevitably mean the death of many civilians. He probably supported the invasion of Afghanistan after 11-Sep-2001, and he probably supported the bombing of Serbia in the ’90s. Even if he didn’t, he surely thinks the UK’s actions in WW2 were at least mostly justified; he may cavil at one or two incidents, such as the bombing of Dresden, or of Tokyo,… Read more »

good
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good

at least someone can tell him something

Nice but
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Nice but

Why oh why do we ALWAYS have to stress these people are “nice guys”? Why are you apologizing? It’s about time articulate, smart people like yourself speak openly & honestly, without bending over backwards to be “fair.” Is O’Brien fair to us? Tell it how it is. Say based on your performance, you come across as anti-semitic AND anti-Zionist. And you only have yourself to blame.

happy
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happy

good work

Proportional response?
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Proportional response?

Simple. Send in a rocket into Gaza indiscriminately every time they do. That is proportionate.

If only
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If only

Rabbi Shochat, thank you for this; We were praying that someone, somewhere would say something! Unfortunately though, its more than highly unlikely that James O’Brian tends to follow COL, and as such , theres very little chance of any of us, who were totally dismayed, discouraged and saddened by his 2 previous broadcasts, where he absolutely wiped the floor with us, no matter who it was who called in and tried to clarify his arguments and enlighten him about the situation, literally reducing us all to stupid ignoramuses, which was his very goal! Im not sure if you are aware,… Read more »

British: IDF saves more lives than anyone
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British: IDF saves more lives than anyone
What does proportional mean?
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What does proportional mean?

You should just ask directly: does that mean you would like more Jews or Israelis to be killed (chas vesholom). War means killing as many people as possible to get a piece of land or water rights or world domination, etc. This isn’t a war. It’s a response to terrorism. Terrorists have decided that killing and dying is what they’re all about. They show again and again they don’t value our lives and they don’t value their own. The only reasonable response to “people” like that is to beat them down until they can’t get up again. You don’t have… Read more »

Well done, great clarity
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Well done, great clarity

As for Israel responding disproportionately, the proof is in the pudding, rockets are still being fired. So the only thing that’s disproportionate is that Israel isn’t responding enough.

And the only war crime Israel might be committing is that it hasn’t responded in a much stronger and decisive way and therefore its citizens are still under attack.

londoner
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londoner

absolutely brilliant article.

Disproportionality?!
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Disproportionality?!

It only seems that way because of the Iron Dome. Israel is defending itself disproportionately better, BH!

If you count the rockets and bullets that each side has shot I wonder which side has shot.

Thank you!!
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Thank you!!

Very well written!!

Proportion according to Hamas
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Proportion according to Hamas

1/1027
If Gilad Shalit is worth 1027 prisoners than 25 israeli solderies = 25675 arabs. I think Israel is a bit too nice on this one.

Thank you!
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Thank you!

Brilliant!!!

What does proportion have to do with anything?
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What does proportion have to do with anything?

They talk as if it’s a basketball game, if any side is stronger it is unfair. This isn’t a basketball game, ITS WAR!
Proportion has no relevance here.

Another Londoner
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Another Londoner

Well written. However, what is the purpose of writing articles to COL, get out there, pick up a phone and speak to HIM!! To COL you are only writing to yourself and to people who agree with you!

Thank you Rabbi Schochet!!!!
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Thank you Rabbi Schochet!!!!

Well Said!!!!!! Beautiful article.

Thank you and well done!
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Thank you and well done!

Could anything be done about it at this stage?
Maybe LBC should be contacted, and an official complaint issued against him?
Its surely time that he is made aware of his unjust, totally uncalled for remarks and comments for 2 long broadcasts! The second time he came on again with along the same vein, i actually turned it off half way through, it was disgusting! more than disgusting, and it bothers me that he should get away scot free!

N0. 16
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N0. 16

Well said no.16!
Theres no way that he is going to get any feed back from COL, he HAS to be addressed on the radio, in person, by someone like Rabbi Shochat, who like, he said himself, could give him a better run for his money! Please do that!

One State Solution
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One State Solution

I think, it is time for some leaders of Chabad to come out open and call for a “ONE STATE SOLUTION”.

A one state solution will not only be a solution which is good for Jews. It will be a solution which is good for Arabs as well. Because Arabs themselves know that they live better under Israeli rule than under Arab rule.

Dear all
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Dear all

Mr James O Brien Is definitely NOT antisemitic!!!!!!!!!! as an extensive listener of his show ,I can testify that he is not antisemitic . He is just a critic of Israeli policy .Us jews argue with our hearts not always with our head ,thats why he wipes the floor with everyone of us that argue with him ,Thats not his fault thats our fault . Ps:he mentioned Rabbi schochet letter on his show today But dismissed it because Unfortunately Rabbi schochet Mocked him by seemingly being not interested in his opinion, then asking him to reply . Instead of engaging… Read more »

I dont believe in antisemetism
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I dont believe in antisemetism

I don’t think there is antisemitism nowadays i think people are just uniformed. He does not say that Israel isn’t doing its best to defend the Gaza civilians. but rather that the fight is not Proportional. If i may get a little sarcastic it sounds like James O’Brien is siting in some high up office watching Israeli politics and eating popcorn and saying this fight is not proportional (sorry for the sarcasm hopefully everyone can take a joke). We have to remind ourselves that Israel is dealing with terrorist. If someone would say that when America was fighting Al Quada… Read more »

Talk Disproportionality
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Talk Disproportionality

The fight on terrorism will always be disproportionate. Because the truth always prevails in the end.Peace and humanity will always over come all evil that wishes to destroy it

NUMBER 16 & 21
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NUMBER 16 & 21

I saw R. Shochet tweeted his response to Obrien so he saw it. As 21 points out he spoke about it today. R. Schochet clearly touched a nerve if he needed to talk about it on his show. Well done! He dismisses everything so no surprise there. Do you have a link that we could listen to where he talks about R. Schochet blog piece?

Well said and Well done
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Well said and Well done

There are always some here who think they know better. Rabbi Shochat is undeniably one of the most eloquent voices in Chabad and possibly the Jewish world.

to 21
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to 21

Never side with someone who criticizes and makes lies about your own nation. This guy is anti semtic, period!

to #21
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to #21

I have no idea who Mr O’Brien is, but I am certain that you are living in la la land. Here’s why: Anti Israel is the new form of anti semitism, or at the very least it’s sibling. Segments of society that have traditionally been against Jews are now against Israel. And by O’Brien giving credence to such claims, he might not be an anti smite but by repeating those claims is supporting anti semitism. How else do you explain the target of Jews in Europe every time Israel is at war? * A cafe near Liege in Belgium said… Read more »

to 27 and 21
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to 27 and 21

I think that is why Rabbi S.point is so perfectly expressed. They can be separated but the lines get blurred is what he said. Brilliant point.

hmmmm
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hmmmm

don’t start up with ppl that are stronger then you. I guess the. Their mothers forgot to teach them

This is great!
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This is great!

Thank you Chaim G. for sending me to COL to read this. It has since appeared in other media as well. It is an excellent response. We needs voices like this Rabbi on every radio and TV show defending Israel!

Hey, #8...
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Hey, #8...

Of course Zionism is not a substitute fro Judaism, but boy did you pick a time to deliver this lecture. Ah bissel seichel and some nonjudgmental AHAVAS YISROEL would be in order, please; and by the way, your contention that there would be less anti-Semitism if only our enemies were educated about the distinction between Judaism and Zionism is sadly indicative of ignorance on your part. Do you think the Mufti y”‘sh told Hitler y”‘sh that he’d participate with him in the murder of Zionists Jews only, but not in the murder of anti-Zionist Jews? In case you don’t know,… Read more »

O'brian? Give me a break...
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O'brian? Give me a break...

Frankly, I don’t give a hoot whether O’brian is or isn’t a nice guy, or whether he is or isn’t an anti-semite. I only care about what he persuades his listeners to think and how that thinking impacts the safety of our brethren in Europe and elsewhere. I, for one, have had enough of this moral equivalence nonsense spewed by many in the media, whether well-meaning or not. Either OUR kids are,chas v’shalom, going to get hurt, or the enemy’s will. What would O’brian do if it was HIS kid vs. an enemy’s kid? If he’s at all normal, think… Read more »

EPIC
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EPIC

Perfect. You are the man.

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