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"We may vote Democrat or Republican, but we are not liberals nor conservatives": Rabbi Mendel Itzinger, Director of Igud Mesivtos V'Yeshivos Lubavitch, responds to a Chabad bochur asking to publicly support the re-election of President Donald Trump. Full Story

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Shadchan of CH
October 18, 2020 9:08 pm

Anyone have the info of the bochur with the Trump flag?? (for Shidduch purposes)

Anonymous
Reply to  Shadchan of CH
October 19, 2020 12:11 am

Lol 🤣

;-)
Reply to  Shadchan of CH
October 19, 2020 12:31 am

Haha

shidduch
Reply to  Shadchan of CH
October 19, 2020 6:53 am

lhara oi lheitiv?

lshvach oi lgnai?

if its the latter you are machti people

Amazing
October 18, 2020 9:15 pm

Couldn’t agree more!!
We are Yiden first, we don’t believe in the constitution or anything else. We believe in Torah and thank hashem every day for the constitution because it allows us to do so.

This needed to be said. A groisen yasher koach
October 18, 2020 9:18 pm

Yasher koach! derech eretz Kodmo latora we must have Ahavas Yisroel for all yidden regardless of political affiliation. The Tora is Darchay Noam vechol nesivoseha Shalom, we can feel strongly but bochrim in hats and jackets trying to own the libs only creates a chillul hashem. Divrey chachomim Benachas nishmoim our chachomim teach us Kul Sheain ruach habrios noche heymena ain ruach hamak om noche heymena. As chasidim it is our mission to bring Moshiach and the way to do that is through ahavas chinam. My we be zoche to greet Moshiach tzidkaynu Keish Echad belev echad bimhara buyumanu mamosh!

Just because a Yid votes Republican
Reply to  This needed to be said. A groisen yasher koach
October 18, 2020 11:01 pm

does not mean they will hate someone who doesn’t

I don’t understand this issue in the first place

Read some of these comments and you'll see
Reply to  Just because a Yid votes Republican
October 19, 2020 1:14 pm

Do you believe that Jews who disagree with you are Nazis? Or belong to the Yevsektzia?

Lies
Reply to  This needed to be said. A groisen yasher koach
October 18, 2020 11:03 pm

never can you support those Jews in leadership that will march you back to the gas chambers. Sorry if people are offended from the truth

You seem confused
October 18, 2020 9:30 pm

Even in America, rights are not necessarily values. Take the First Amendment for example, it says that “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press” that means that there is a right to say whatever you want (with limited exceptions), including saying not nice things. That does not mean that saying mean things are an American value. There is no contradiction to supporting free speech and being a 100% frum yid. Next, you claim that it is not okay to dislike one who is of one political party and to like others from… Read more »

I agree
Reply to  You seem confused
October 18, 2020 10:36 pm

I agree

Mendel
Reply to  You seem confused
October 19, 2020 8:33 am

Couldn’t agree more

Thank you
October 18, 2020 9:37 pm

Important message for us to keep in mind!

Very well said!
October 18, 2020 9:37 pm

I am so glad and relieved that someone came out with this article. This puts into words exactly how I feel about politics. In this election cycle I’m against Trump. I lost count of how many times people questioned my Yiddishkeit and chassidishkeit for joining “the liberals.” I kept trying to tell them this exact thing: that Republicans are no more Torah-based than Democrats! Neither represent our values so we have to choose who we think will do the best job for our country (which, in this case, in my opinion is anyone but Trump). Remember when wearing a yechi… Read more »

I disagree
Reply to  Very well said!
October 18, 2020 10:38 pm

If you think that the left is in any way shape or form better for yiddishkeit or this country then you’re quite uninformed at the least

We disagree
Reply to  I disagree
October 18, 2020 10:51 pm

We very much disagree about which party in this election is better for the country and for Yiddishkeit. However, the point of the article is that which party you support in an election has nothing to do with your Yiddishkeit and chassidishkeit. I am a frum person who davens and learns and keeps halacha and is mekushar to the Rebbe. We disagree about politics. So what?

Trump2020
Reply to  Very well said!
October 18, 2020 10:49 pm

The yiddens enemies are all against trump we must not sit idle but save our people.

As long as you know what the other option is...
Reply to  Very well said!
October 18, 2020 10:49 pm

Biden would be deemed unable to act as president… so it would be President Harris, VP Pelosi (House Speaker is 3rd in line), Sanders in charge of the budget, Gov Cuomo as Attorney General…
While you are certainly entitled to believe this would be better for the country, I hope you have enough sense to understand why others don’t prefer the policies they espouse/enforce.

Explain please
Reply to  Very well said!
October 18, 2020 10:51 pm

Can you please explain how the democrats are better for the Jews and the Torah than Republicans? Doesn’t seem so at all.

Because Trump is doing a poor job
Reply to  Explain please
October 19, 2020 8:21 am

Plain and simple, Trump is doing a very poor job and should be replaced. He also acts extremely immature. Now you can disagree and think he’s doing a great job and you’re fine with his immaturity. You are entitled to your opinion, You do you. The point of the article, which I strongly agree with, is not to define your Yiddishkeit by which candidate they support or to question the Yiddishkeit of someone else who disagrees with you. At the end of the day it’s another Yid who simply has a different opinion.

depends which network you tune into
Reply to  Because Trump is doing a poor job
October 19, 2020 12:38 pm

this election could literally turn the country towards socialism. listen to prager university. vote wisely!! make sure you listen to both sides of the aisle.

no clue
Reply to  Because Trump is doing a poor job
October 19, 2020 2:54 pm

your remark is so off its embarrassing that a yid could even write it. in the history of the USA there hasn’t been a president that has done even a small percentage of what trump has accomplished and that’s with everyone fighting against him. in addition, he has done the greatest chessed to jews as all presidents combined. the dems are the party of hate, destruction and lies

get a brain
Reply to  Because Trump is doing a poor job
October 19, 2020 7:36 pm

doesnt seem like you know whats going on. stop watching cnn

Anonynmous
Reply to  Because Trump is doing a poor job
October 24, 2020 7:33 pm

biden is even worse… to people running for president that will both do a poor job. anyway, if its about corona, every country in the world is doing a poor job, because they dont kno what to do and its confusing. you would probably do worse than trump

Against Torah
Reply to  Very well said!
October 18, 2020 11:06 pm

Voting for this den party is a vote a against yiddishkeit, and yes I wouldn’t trust you as a person , values, kashrus and anything else. Even if a apikoris says the sky is blue we are not allowed to believe it

Is that a psak?
Reply to  Against Torah
October 19, 2020 12:17 am

Can you show me a ruling from any rav that says that you can’t trust the kashrus of someone who votes for a Democrat or that they’re considered an apikores? Sounds like something you just made up yourself. It seems like you’re the one substituting politics for religion.

psak
Reply to  Is that a psak?
October 19, 2020 3:00 pm

not every time in life you need to run to a rav to know between what’s right and wrong. this dem party are terrorists ( #BLM & #ANTIFA ), haters ( big jew haters, yes those official so called jews in their party) destructive. in a few months our great country has been destroyed and turned into a war zone. Thru out history the dem party have always been pathetic, wanting to keep blacks as slave( thats for you liberal minded people) they even killed a president for abolishing the slaves. the created the KKK, they didnt want woman to… Read more »

Idol worship
Reply to  psak
October 19, 2020 3:40 pm

So, you have rabbonim telling you to calm down, that politics isn’t religion, that at the end of the day we’re still fellow Jews even if we disagree. But no. YOU know better. You know who’s a real Jew and who isn’t. Who’s an apikores and who’s not. Maybe you need to have a little bittul.

Idol worship
Reply to  psak
October 19, 2020 5:43 pm

I’m sorry, but you’re the one who should check with a rav before declaring that other Jews who disagree with you are apikorsim.

yes,
Reply to  Against Torah
October 19, 2020 12:40 pm

in this election…yes.

Finally!!
October 18, 2020 9:49 pm

I’ve been mulling writing something like this for a long, long time. Alas, you beat me to it! We aren’t republicans or democrats, conservatives or liberals! We are frumme Yidden, and at any point we vote for the party or person whose platform is closest to our Torah platform. I cringe when I hear frumme people saying that they are one or the other, like their values are no longer received from Gd but from talk radio.

Yasher koach!

right now
Reply to  Finally!!
October 19, 2020 12:42 pm

this election….democrats are like Amalek. literally.

Ur missing an aleph
October 18, 2020 9:53 pm

In the secind last line of the article at the “hamitis” u are mussing an aleph, of wbich it makes a bad translation, pleaee fix so i can read the article for i always start a book and article at the end

Thank you!
October 18, 2020 10:09 pm

Beautifully written and so important for many in our community to hear. Politics is the religion of the masses. We still have our religion – it does not have to be replaced.

You got me
October 18, 2020 10:09 pm

I thought this article was click bait, but it’s actually quite good. Thanks rabbi!

CROWN HEIGHTS RESIDENT
October 18, 2020 10:21 pm

HE MAKES NO SENSE WE ARE VOTING FOR TRUMP NOT BECAUSE HE IS A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRACT BECAUSE HE IS GOOD FOR THE JEWS BIDIN IS A DISASTER FOR THE JEWS

I agree
Reply to  CROWN HEIGHTS RESIDENT
October 18, 2020 10:38 pm

Exactly

Not A Crown Heights Resident
Reply to  CROWN HEIGHTS RESIDENT
October 18, 2020 10:39 pm

Thank you for your well considered insight on the contents of the article. You did read it, right?

Berel
Reply to  Not A Crown Heights Resident
October 18, 2020 10:49 pm

He said it how it is. The Rabbi speaks about the Democrats of old, the Democrats who gave a fig about section 8. In fact, I had been speaking just like this Rabbi for years, when the Democrats were by and large sane. That was the Democrat party that ran Lieberman as a VP. This election has nothing with Republicans vs Democrats. These guys aren’t the Democrats of old — they are the radical left inhabiting the lifeless corpse of a now moribund political party. They have been spending 4 years trying to upend an election, and they are hot… Read more »

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Mendel
Reply to  Berel
October 19, 2020 8:36 am

Agree

????
Reply to  CROWN HEIGHTS RESIDENT
October 19, 2020 12:35 pm

What are you saying? Did you read the article. People like you are the reason the Beis Hamikdosh was destroyed and Moshiach isn’t here. I don’t care who you are voting for. I personally am voting Biden. But that doesn’t define us. Maybe you can grow up and be mature. Preface this by saying in MY opinion. Just STOP!

Berel
October 18, 2020 10:31 pm

I found this off. I was expecting the Rov to go on about how this is not for a tomim or among the public inyonim of a Rosh Yeshiva, and I would have agreed with that. That’s not the approach the Rabbi took, and for that reason alone, the Rabbi is completely off in my opinion. The forgoing would be true even if the general argument were correct, which it isn’t. The Democrat party has been taken over by a revolutionary movement. There is ongoing plan to steal the election. Once elected, this revolutionary movement will remake the judiciary such… Read more »

Trump 2020
October 18, 2020 10:52 pm

Trump 2020

Nice
October 18, 2020 10:55 pm

Nicely said.
Thanks for the clarity.

Am Haratzus
October 18, 2020 10:58 pm

I am surprised by this article.
Jews have always voted for politicians, Jews were politicians themselves. Of course Jews like a goy politician better than a Jewish one if the goy was better to the Jews.

I would bring sources, but I guess no one listens anymore.

MOSHIACH NOW!

Torah values
October 18, 2020 11:02 pm

According to Torah values you can’t vote for any democrat. And saying schiff is Jewish means nothing, all the dem Jews in leadership are pathetic beings. It’s one thing a person doing wrong but when you have leadership that are rotten to the core and only live their lives with hate and destruction and hate their fellow Jews your not allowed to support them in any way. The dem party support terrorists groups( #ANTIFA & #BLM) . They have turned our great country into a war zone.

RABBI MEIR KAHANE
October 18, 2020 11:07 pm

TO THE AUTHOR: WHAT PLANET ARE YOU.ON? THERE IS NO SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT MOMENT AFFECTING THE JEWISH PEOPLE TODAY GLOBALLY THAN TO BE REPUBLICAN FOR THE NOVEMBER 3RD AND GET OUT THE VOTE FOR TRUMP. ARE WE ALL CRAZY TO LET BIDEN UNDO WHAT POTUS HAS ACHIEVED THE LAST 4 YEARS. IRAN, SHLAIMUS HO’ORETZ, BDS, INTEGRITY OF EY IN THE UN. THE REBBE CONSTANTLY SPOKE ABOUT THE HALOCHO TO DEFEND EY EVEN ON SHABBOS IF HER ENEMIES COME TO ASK JUST FOR STRAW & HAY. BY VOTING FOR TRUMP ON NOV 3RD WE ARE EXPLICITLY DEFENDING ISRAEL AND THE INTEGRITY… Read more »

MOVE TO ISRAEL
Reply to  RABBI MEIR KAHANE
October 19, 2020 12:40 pm

This is America! Get a grip. We are not voting for what is better for Israel. We are voting for what is better for AMERICA! BIDEN IS BETTER FOR AMERICA!!!! So chill and go make Aliya!!!

delusional
Reply to  MOVE TO ISRAEL
October 19, 2020 3:03 pm

its a shame how pathetic that statement about the wicked biden. unless thats the type of people you like and support

Huh?
Reply to  MOVE TO ISRAEL
October 19, 2020 7:29 pm

So we are voting for America?
Hmmm.
Perhaps then we should think of voting for an America that accommodates shmiras hatorah vehamitzvos and yiras shomayim (read perek 42 in Tanya). That of course is without mentioning constricting the flagrant shfichas domim of the unborn. Vechi Ha’adam Eytz Hasadeh?

maybe move to Venezuela
Reply to  MOVE TO ISRAEL
October 19, 2020 8:03 pm

maybe you move to Venezuela there they already have the policies that Joe Biden wants to implement here, trump has been a very good president not only for Israel (which is still a very important issue for even for Americans) but he has been good for all Americans, so if you are not happy with the job he has done than you ether don’t want America to succeed or just not educated. so for anyone that is reading this please go out and VOTE and if you can help others to vote please do that.

will do
Reply to  maybe move to Venezuela
October 20, 2020 4:00 pm

go vote!!!!!

Missing the point
October 18, 2020 11:10 pm

It has nothing to do with politics , it’s all about this dem party is a party of terrorism(#BLM & ANTIFA) , hate, and destruction. And the most important that they want to match the Jews back to thug as chambers. It’s a shame any normal sane person can’t see it

Schiff vs cruz
October 18, 2020 11:11 pm

Cruz is more Jewish than schiff

chabad
Reply to  Schiff vs cruz
October 19, 2020 6:04 pm

well… that goes against everything the rebbe said. hope you don’t call yourself a chabad chassid 🙂

Tzvi
October 18, 2020 11:27 pm

This election for us frum yidden is very important. We have to have hakoras hatov,gratitude for the so many good things President Trump did for us. Gratitude is the foundation of yiddishkeit. That’s why we are called yehudim for our gratitude and praise to Hashem. Let’s not forget Mordechai Rubashkin vein freed by Trump. His support of security for eretz yisroel. Most of all had Hillarey won we could of closed all our yeshivas especially had she appointed a majority liberal Supreme Court. We would have to teach atheistic evolution and immoral relationships in our schools or face shutdowns like… Read more »

Something to think about
October 18, 2020 11:40 pm

True, we don’t define ourselves by political affiliation. At the same time, voting for the correct party at this unique point in time may well be a matter of pikuach nefesh.

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The Alte Rebbe and the Czar
October 19, 2020 12:00 am

The Alte Rebbe fought a war for the for the Czar that was far worse then Trump. why is it that some ppl just cant seem to be on the right side even when so much is at stake? (shlaomus haaretz, safety in america, rubashkin, school choice….)

Anonymous
October 19, 2020 12:05 am

According to this logic, the Rebbeim should have loved the maskilim and yesevtzke and yoshkeh instead of fighting them tooth and nail and cursing them out. There is a time and place for everything. The reshoim on the left want to obliterate Yiddishkeit and belief in Hashem. They deserve not one ounce of Dan lekaf zchus. Time for some serious introspection and desperately needed leadership. No this has nothing to do with Democrat and Republican in of itself but everything to do where those parties have currently and clearly aligned themselves.

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Well said
October 19, 2020 12:18 am

Clearly thought out and explained
There are many blurred lines in our society today
As frume Yidden we need to know where our line of demarcation is
Thank you for clarifying

To Rabbi Itzinger
October 19, 2020 1:07 am

I want to begin by thanking you for sharing your thoughtful perspective. It was a good reminder to not get so caught up in partisan politics that we forget our purpose as Frum Yidden. Though this may not have been your intention, it was also a good reminder that no matter which direction this country turns, whatever takes place is the will of the Aibershter. Having said that, I have a question for you. Isn’t our job as to teach other Yidden to follow Torah and encourage non-Jews to adhere to the 7 Mitzvos of Bnei Noach? You can probably… Read more »

יא גערעכט
October 19, 2020 7:15 am

די הייליגע רבי זאגט אז אויב מ’גייט מיט די זעלבע ביטול. די זעלבע קבלת עול וואס די הייליגע טאטע געהאט לויט די שיטה הקדושה אז קען מען מצליח זיין אין די הייליגע וועגן פון תורת החסידות.

Go figure!
October 19, 2020 8:10 am

So in 2020, Jews are supporting the man who supports the Neo-Nazis…..go figure!
We have become what we have accused them of being.

Berel
Reply to  Go figure!
October 19, 2020 12:13 pm

“We have become what we have accused them of being”

What are you even talking about

go figure
Reply to  Berel
October 19, 2020 3:05 pm

hes talking about how 70 % of lbieral jews r”l are going to vote for the rasha biden

Bochur
October 19, 2020 8:59 am

that being said, its interesting to note that here we can see an example of chabad consisting of both political idiologies, socialist and conservative. Those who are of the opinion that we must “love all humans” (aka in the clouds) are on the left and those who put their foot down and are proactive about the objective facts are on the right. The divide is clearly seen from this article and comments. I find it hilarious. But, to clarify, in lubavitch we don’t give 2 hoots about “achdus” when it puts judaism in danger. We are not naive and we… Read more »

We disagree
Reply to  Bochur
October 19, 2020 9:59 am

It’s the right wing who believe every conspiracy theory and every video they see on whatsapp and facebook without doing any fact checking or thinking of their own. People who think for themselves don’t swallow the Trump line. So much idiocy and disinformation that people are peddling in the name of “truth.”

go figure
Reply to  We disagree
October 19, 2020 3:06 pm

delusional

yyf
Reply to  Bochur
October 19, 2020 7:55 pm

Achdus is a central part of Judaism, as illumined by Toras Hachassidus (among others in Tanya Perek 32 by the Alter Rebbe).

We make sure to “Umekorevon LaTorah”, to bring people close to the Torah, and not dilute the Torah, Chas VShalom, in order to try to better bring it to the people. However, this must always be done with love, BDarchaei Noam Ubdarchei Shalom!

Israel.
October 19, 2020 9:23 am

The creation of the state of Israel was a “political” act, that benefited us tremendously as YiDDEN. If we just stood around, israel would not exist.

דרך ארץ קדמה לתורה
Reply to  Israel.
October 19, 2020 7:06 pm

The political act to which you refer was orchestrated by left wing socialists. You may want to consider that.

Parsha Noah.Don’t get involved?Is that the lesson?
October 19, 2020 9:24 am

It’s remarkable how we are all go out and preach laws of Noah to a non Jews.
Now we actually have a non Jew in power who is openly following it by respecting” law and order “ .one of the noahide laws
And condemning people who are not following it and we want to “not get involved ??? Are you kidding me?
Yet, next day we will go again and give Noahide law carts to non Jews? If we don’t practice what we preach? What are we? We are we?

We disagree
Reply to  Parsha Noah.Don’t get involved?Is that the lesson?
October 19, 2020 9:57 am

Gilui arayos is also one of the Noachide laws and Trump doesn’t give a hoot about that. Funny how people pick and choose which of the seven Noachide laws they care about. Trump is like Pharaoh–he thinks he’s god!

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater
Reply to  We disagree
October 19, 2020 11:08 am

Yes, gilui arayos is one of the sheva mitzvos. Yes, Trump has done some disgusting things in this area before assuming office. So did Biden and Harris, so that’s not a reason to pick them over him. Fact of the matter is that while in office, he used his position of power to secure $100,000,000 to combat *** trafficking.

Idol worship
Reply to  Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater
October 19, 2020 1:18 pm

So, he is not “openly following” the sheva mitzvos. In fact he openly violates them. Except that you pick and choose which of the sheva mitzvos to care about.

Really?
Reply to  Idol worship
October 19, 2020 3:39 pm

Can you prove which of the sheva mitzvos the democrats promise to implement or adhere to? Last I checked, they don’t promote belief in Hashem, not killing, not stealing, morality, lesser reliance on govt (you can argue whether stronger reliance on govt assistance is/isn’t idol worship, but that doesn’t invalidate the question) or a judicial system that enforces the aforementioned.

Idol worship
Reply to  Really?
October 19, 2020 5:23 pm

Trump does not believe in G-d. He thinks he’s god. Trump has been acting with immorality all his life. Trump would easily murder someone if he could get away with it. He boasted that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and you would still support him (you would!) Trump has been stealing and ripping people off his whole life. Trump appoints judges that will let him get away with his crimes. That’s not justice. Reliance or unreliance on government has nothing to do with the sheva mitzvos so I’m not even sure why you’re bringing it up, but frum… Read more »

Foolish
Reply to  Idol worship
October 19, 2020 6:09 pm

Your remarks are pathetic. Trump never killed anyone , however your Clinton and Biden have murdered many

Idol worship
Reply to  Foolish
October 19, 2020 7:34 pm

Trump openly boasted about shooting people without losing supporters. That doesn’t sound like someone committed to the sheva mitzvos to me.

Talk radio
Reply to  Foolish
October 20, 2020 6:13 am

Honestly, next time you write just write your name. And I know it.
Sean hannity tucker carlson rush limbaugh

which one?
Reply to  Idol worship
October 19, 2020 8:06 pm

which one?

THANK YOU
Reply to  We disagree
October 19, 2020 12:43 pm

100 percent correct!!

Parsha Noah.Don’t get involved?Is that the lesson?
October 19, 2020 9:28 am

We have the non-Jew who is in power who is openly following noahide laws of •”Law and Order” and condemning people who are not following. Yet we don’t want to get involved with that. Yet, tomorrow we’re going to go again and hand out the cards with Noahhide. We have to practice what we preach. Stay aside is exactly what we learn not to do from this Parsha.

QUOTE FROM JEWISH PRESS: (re Biden)
October 19, 2020 9:41 am

TO ALL THOSE VOTING FOR BIDEN
Joe Biden is an anti semite and here’s the proof:  Quoting from thr Jewish Press, page 10, Friday August 7, 2020,in the article named “Embracing BDS while pretending not to”…
Quoting: “In December 2016, when Barack Obama was a lame duck beyond the reach of voters and doners, he orchestrated the passage of the infamous UNSC 2334.  This  UN Counsel Resolution was precisely the source of anti semitic defamation that every previous administration, republican and democrat had always vetoed.  Obama’s team, with Joe Biden reportedly directly and personally strong arming other nations to go along, facilitated its passing to the standing ovation of a Jew hating world.”

דער זיידע פלעגט זאגן
October 19, 2020 10:24 am

גוט געזאגט.

אבער צו נישט זאגן קומט עס נישט….

What's the big deal?
October 19, 2020 10:57 am

The Rebbe said clearly to a Bochur He saw by a voting place that voting is not for a Bochur. This is well known.

Save Yourselves. Sorry for long post.
October 19, 2020 12:11 pm

The Yevsektziya of the Communist party of the 1920s were all Yidden who’s sole purpose was to destroy Yiddishkeit and bring Socialism to the Jews – they were Yeshiva educated, some from Lubavitch with Semicha, who waged war on Judaism shut down all Jewish organizations, converted Shuls in to clubs, Yeshivas, Mikvaos, and generations of Jews and ultimately arrested the Frierdiker Rebbe. Rabbi Itzinger, by your logic, we should have sided with them against the Frierdiker Rebbe. After all, they were Jews, weren’t they? Hating them would perhaps prevent us from putting tefillin on them in the street as you… Read more »

No, they are not the yevsektzia
Reply to  Save Yourselves. Sorry for long post.
October 19, 2020 1:02 pm

If you believe that it just shows how you fell for a lot of lies and propaganda. Trump’s whole life was about scamming other people. Now he has conned many Jewsi nto believing that a vote against him is a vote against Torah. Did any rav ever say that? ? Do you have a psak that its assur to vote for a Democrat? ? Don’t make up your own halachos and your own Judaism. The Democrats aren’t holy. neither are Republicans. That’s what he’s trying to tell you. Not everything you see on Facebook or WhatsApp is the truth.

No, they are not the yevsektzia
Reply to  No, they are not the yevsektzia
October 19, 2020 3:25 pm

your correct, they are worse, they make isis look like the varsity team. this dem party , if you give them power will make hitler (yms) look not so bad

Idol worship
Reply to  No, they are not the yevsektzia
October 19, 2020 5:47 pm

I think you’re being sarcastic. I hope. ISIS+Hitler+Stalin all rolled in one. Why not throw in Torquemada, Nevuchadnetzar, Haman and Titus while you’re at it.

Nope
Reply to  Idol worship
October 20, 2020 11:12 am

I’m serious. This dem party would be worse then them all.

voting
October 19, 2020 1:22 pm

Too simplistic
I agree that you must not publicly ask people to support a specific candidate.
However, one must carefully consider – and this is very important- what is in the best interest for klall Yisroel.

Great Article
October 19, 2020 3:23 pm

It is telling that most of the disagreeing comments are not addressing the article itself. They are outraged that someone has the gall to even consider not voting for Trump.

This is exactly what the author is addressing!

Values
October 19, 2020 5:34 pm

If Donald Trump shares our values, we have a seriously misplaced value system.

politics
October 19, 2020 5:43 pm

the rebbe said many times , chabad should stay far away from politics.However the author speaks at length about the constitution and how it enables us freedom of religon more than any country. Well he is very ignorant of current events and the political scene. Because if the democrats have their way , the supreme court will for sure interpet (erroneously) the constitution in the most anti religoius way, with tragic results for religious freedom. (Circumsicion, shechitah, edjucation, alternative marriage, Menorahs in public and much more)

Rabbi M. Kantor Snr. Eastern Parkway.
October 19, 2020 6:54 pm

Political preference or shmeference, which end of the political spectrum will bring more shmutz into the atmosphere that our children and grandchildren breath, by promoting “rights” that are mayseh behema, and publicizing them on slabs at the side of city buses?
Go vote.

The Election Has A Lot To Do With Yiddishkeit
October 20, 2020 4:01 pm

When it comes to politics, we should take sides. (Don’t necessarily do it publicly if you’re a shliach.) We must take the side of the party/candidate who is better for Jewish people and aligns with a lot of our beliefs.
As a Frum political Youtuber I have had many people asking me why Jews support the Left when they’re constantly against Israel, against a lot of Jewish beliefs, and targeting Frum Jews (Cuomo, De Blasio).
It is a Chillul Hashem not to support Trump.

Blind-sighted
October 20, 2020 11:39 pm

I find this rabbi confused and a bit blind-sighted. While he tries to differentiate rights from values, he forgets that a nation’s laws and values concurrently reflect its culture. By law, for example, a child must attend school because this country sees the value in universal education. Public school was made mandatory in 1918. Beforehand, greater value was placed on child labor, either in farms or factories. Values can change, however. Unfortunately, the laws against abortion ceased at a time when human life was no longer valued and total female freedom became the norm. Alternative marriage became permitted because .… Read more »

His heart is in the right place...
October 21, 2020 8:54 am

…and, per the Rebbe’s instructions, nothing political should be done in Chabad’s name, HOWEVER…

…it is imperative to vote Trump for our safety and security. #MAGA!

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