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Kashrus Switched on Empire Poultry

The KAJ certification notified it is no longer being given to Empire Kosher Poultry sold in Trader Joe’s and kosher groceries around the USA. Their products continue to be under the OU Kosher and Rabbi Yechiel Babad of Tartikov Kashrus. Full Story

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empire got a new hechsher
July 21, 2020 9:01 pm

yechiel babad tartakov that y they left

Emr
Reply to  empire got a new hechsher
July 21, 2020 9:30 pm

Don’t they have the OU as well?

CRB
Reply to  Emr
July 21, 2020 10:05 pm

They are still under OU supervision

Was it under them?
July 21, 2020 9:23 pm

The Empire kosher website says that it is under the supervising agencies, the Orthodox Union and Rabbi Yechiel Babad, Tartikov Rav.
It didn’t mention KAJ.

Reason
July 21, 2020 9:29 pm

The FDA tells reasons why drugs are discontinued or why items are being recalled because they have an effect on the body. Kashrus of food has an effect on the soul and body. Kashrus agencies should maybe be more open to the public and tell the reasons places are losing their hashgacha.

Wake up and smell the coffe
Reply to  Reason
July 21, 2020 10:21 pm

$ and politics

$$$ ?
Reply to  Wake up and smell the coffe
July 22, 2020 4:31 am

Shocking! $ and politics in the kashruth industry? Unheard of.

Mr.
Reply to  Wake up and smell the coffe
July 22, 2020 3:05 pm

Silly thing to say, Empire wanted a Chassidishe Hechsher, so they took Rabbi Babad, nothing with money or politics

Still fully reliable and also chassidishe
July 21, 2020 9:32 pm

I was just sent a confirmation from R Elefant who has been involved in the entire process. He confirmed that nothing has changed in the process, the shochtim or anything else. Empire continues to be certified by the OU, Nirbater Rav and morning Rabbi Babad.

This is wonderful but....
July 21, 2020 10:35 pm

We try to use CHK.

People have their reasons
Reply to  This is wonderful but....
July 21, 2020 11:13 pm

The worst shchita of a chicken is better than the best shchita of cow.

Chassidish
July 21, 2020 11:33 pm

Why don’t they allow Lubavitcher Shocktim
Are We not considerd chasidishe

Thin on details can be misleading
July 22, 2020 12:16 am

I see two other supervisions are active so that being the case being vague can be many reasons and that is the point many reasons but none mentioned

Emes
July 22, 2020 1:21 am

I know from close that the reason why kaj left has nothing to do with kashrus the reason is because they couldnt stand that the good chasidishe hechsher from Tartikov was added and the Kaj will not run the show anymore its a shame to write reason about kashrus when its not

Split back
July 22, 2020 10:24 am

Lubavitchers should only be using split back, ie David Elliott or some Marvid

Marvid
Reply to  Split back
July 22, 2020 9:30 pm

Marvid from Canada is very nice. David Elliott has way too many feathers. Not sure how those feathers are supposed to be plucked- machine or by hand. If it’s a machine, they need to update and get a new one. If by hand, hire more people. In this day and age, why on earth would a customer want to buy chicken that they have to spend an half hour plucking feathers out of?!!!

That's a stretch
Reply to  Split back
July 22, 2020 9:56 pm

What do you base this statement on? Most David Elliot is NOT split.

Very strange...
July 23, 2020 2:58 pm

Birdsboro brand has CRC AND OU, the KAJ letter only mentions CRC. The KAJ itself relies on the OU. Looks to me like the people at Empire made a business decision. On the one hand, what percentage of consumers would stop buying their product if the KAJ supervision was removed. On the other hand, what is the potential new customer base with this chassidishe supervision. What has not changed is that the OU and the Nirbater Rav still provide supervision.

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