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Judge Won’t Block Bris Law

A Manhattan federal judge refused to block a New York City regulation requiring people who perform Metzitzah B’Peh to first obtain written consent from the parents. Full Story

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Dovid
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Dovid

It’s a consent form. Sheesh.

I just read the entire Ruling
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I just read the entire Ruling

The judge wrote a very very compelling ruling. It will be very very hard to overturn.

Nu nu
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Nu nu

Can’t say I’m surprised. Hopefully, the 2nd Circuit will overturn this law.

No big deal.
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No big deal.

So you’el get some more chances to practice your signutue. Nu! That no big deal – unlike Bloomberg would like it to be.

Jew v Non
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Jew v Non

We couldnt get a Goy judge on the bench? No doubt, would have quashed it. Leave it to the liberal Jews….

Dovid
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Dovid

“this is the first step of the overstepping of the boundaries by the government”

Americans casted their ballots for big government. Now it’s time to pay for it.

#6, indeed
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#6, indeed

And one more point: commenters #1 and #4 will be singing a different tune the first time that Child Protective Services decides to remove a child from their parents on the basis of their having signed such a form and knowingly exposed their children to danger.

Then again, maybe not – more likely people like that will continue to make excuses, much like you can find historians who claim that the Roman gezeiros against circumcision were simply a public health measure…

To #6
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To #6

MOST Poskim hold it’s OK skip metzitizah v’peh. In any case we can always make our own pamphlet’s, detailing why we think it’s safe and why it might be against halacha to skip it.

Regarding your second point. I agree with you 99%. I don’t think it’s the government’s business, telling us how we should do bris millah.

mrs,bracha levertov
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mrs,bracha levertov

Himmel geshray!, everyone should be extremely alarmed anbout this !!! It is the goverment mixing into time honored tradition. Maybe 4kids got infected and died MAYBE from a mohel had herpes.h ow many died from car accidents every second. Do they outlaw cars? They should develope some swab to test mohalim before each bris. The big p roblem is that b.h. Almost every jewish parent gives their kid a bris( even non reli giuos ones) now they will hear that there is a danger involved, without too much thought they will skip the bris.

#1 double sheesh
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#1 double sheesh

it’s a concent form. And if chas vshalom something (herpes or another tragic occurance L”A) occurs, you don’t think the parents will be hauled into court for child endagerment, “knowing full well that they were endangering the welfare of their child” Sheesh

a bunch of liberals
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a bunch of liberals

Self-hating, Torah disclaming, liberal Jews. And some are not even Jews – just the offspring of a self-hating Jew who couldn’t withhold his passion from a shiksa.
If I was still young enough to have a child, I would pray for another baby boy, Just so I could have him Circumscised with Metzitzah B’Peh, just like was done for all my sons. Chas v’shalom if even one mother is intimidated and refuses Metzitzah B’Peh.

soviet union
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soviet union

so we’r back to the “alte tzaytin” – back to the underground bris milois

Land of the Free
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Land of the Free

About freedom after choosing, is the question.
1) It seems there is litigation in the pipeline – “good citizen’s” litigation – prompting the city and child services to investigate the “unexpected concern” of evaluating “quality of parenting”.
2) What if these non-male Judges and Lawyers needed to rule and comment on islamic circumcision particulars

It's not just another form
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It's not just another form

Any of us reading this on COL won’t have a problem signing such a consent form, the real problem is will secular Jews consent to a have a proper bris after reading the form?

Shabbos
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Shabbos

And what happens if the bris is on Shabbos and nothing was signed before Shabbos?

Never knew
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Never knew

As a Lubavitch FFB girl, i NEVER knew this takes place at a bris at all and would never allow it on my sons.

mori
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mori

it is not just a religious practice, it is also a healthy one to have a bris

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