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Friday Shooting in Crown Heights

A 19 year old woman was shot while getting mail in her apartment building lobby on Maple St. early Friday, in what cops believe was a robbery attempt. Full Story

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to#24
February 15, 2015 2:00 pm

You make no sense. His soul is at stake? Really?

not when a gun is pointed at you
February 15, 2015 12:34 pm

My brother was Asst..DA of Nassau County, he told me a dozen times, by the time you make the first move towards getting your gun out of your pocket book or your pocket you will be shot dead by the perp also if you are lucky enough to be able to get your shot in, better shoot to kill…..or you will be in court the rest of your life and maybe jail too. Now especially with your new Mayor.
BABU

Guns don't kill People, but...
February 15, 2015 12:02 pm

“Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.” But, why make it so easy with easy guns?

I would like to know the stats for the following:
Is more gun violence committed by chronic criminals, or by ordinarily good people who temporarily lose their cool, and let someone have it,Ch”V, only to truly regret it afterwards?

To #17
February 15, 2015 10:06 am

Bernie Madoff is a criminal. He single-handedly destroyed the lives of thosands of people with his actions. He is a Jew, and he is also a criminal. Nevertheless, If I happened to be visiting the prison where he is incarcerated, I would put Tefilin on him, because ultimately, his Neshama did nothing wrong, and his Neshama should not be held accountable for his criminal actions. This does NOT change the fact that he is a criminal, and your statement is beyond pathetic. I am a very conservative Jew, and yes, it’s true that there are Jewish criminals out there, and… Read more »

neighbor
February 15, 2015 9:39 am

police were all over here last night. wonder what happened

from # 1
February 15, 2015 9:26 am

BS”D to # 5 obviously you were too ignorant to even understand the remark and even more obvious is that the majority of blacks are descent people (alto underlying is the universal hatred of goyim toward Yidden. My comment is directed to the fact that all violent crime is committed by blacks. Take a look at the department of correction buses that shuffle people from jail to their court appearances- it is filled with blacks. My comment went to the heart of the lack of the black leadership who defend muggers and blame society etc for the crimes of black… Read more »

ALFRED E NEWMAN
February 15, 2015 7:38 am

MOVE TO EUROPE……..ITS SAFER :<(

Refuah shalayma
February 15, 2015 4:58 am

We need moshiach now! And this poor young girl should have a complete recovery!!! And the criminal caught!

re: average citizens walking around with firearms...
February 15, 2015 3:06 am

I’m not sure the average citizen is emotionally equipped to deal with shooting someone to death or even to judge whether they are actually being confronted by someone who wants to do them serious bodily harm or “just” to grab their phone, for example. furthermore,criminals with guns generally have more practice using those guns than the average joe would have, even if he did have a permit to carry a gun; and criminals usually have the element of surprise on their side, so it’s not inconceivable that a rattled victim’s weapon could actually land up in the criminal’s hands with… Read more »

To #16
February 15, 2015 2:06 am

That’s not the point. In this particular story, our friendly “locked and loaded Lubavitcher” would be an idiot to pull out his weapon with a gun pointed at him at close range. Making a move for his pocket or holster would most certainly cause the perp to panic and shoot.

As for your reference to the words pf our sages “Habo
Lehorgoi Hashkem V’horgoi”, that is when there is a CLEAR intent on murder. When a druggy with a gun is looking for fast fast cash, don’t be an idiot.

#8 a jew
February 15, 2015 2:05 am

to #8: i actually agreed to every word you wrote except to those last few words you added :”just like you are not in control of every jewish criminal”. by those few stupid and unnecessary words you went overboard as chazal say kol hamosif goraiah. by those few stupid words you have exposed yourself as a liberal jew. ask a rov if you were aloud to write that al pi halachah (needless to say if it was necessary to bring out your point). think if the rebbe would be happy with those words?! EVEN if chas v’sholom there was a… Read more »

to #15
February 14, 2015 11:55 pm

There is more to self-protection than just owning a firearm. You have to learn how to use it, and train regularly. Many crimes are prevented by armed and properly trained civilians, check the statistics. Of course, a person has to be mentally willing to do what is necessary. Baruch Hashem we have our holy Torah, which tells us “If someone is coming to kill you, kill him first.” The Rambam adds that if we are able we also have a duty to kill someone who is going to kill someone else, and that for purposes of this halacha someone about… Read more »

To #10
February 14, 2015 11:32 pm

The movie reference was to simply bring across a point that this “locked and loaded Lubavitcher” fellow is living in a fantasy land.

To #4 & 5
February 14, 2015 11:07 pm

It’s easy to see what you stand for- And it’s not the life and freedom of the innocent citizen. Clearly, the shooting victim is not what bothers you, only the comments of outrage over the attack. Further, I fully agree with #3 that for the safety of the public against increasing crime, all forms of protection, including weapons, are a priority. You, it seems, are the one who truly needs help. Good luck with that.

to #1 and #8
February 14, 2015 10:44 pm

When the wheels where stolen off my car in E. New York Ave, my black neighbors came out and were so so upset “They wicked, man, they wicked.”

For every Jewish victim of black crime, there are 10 black victims (statistic made up, but you get my point).

Locked and Loaded Lubavitcher
February 14, 2015 10:43 pm

I’ve said it a thousand times before, and this incident only serves to underscore my point further – if you can’t carry a concealed weapon for self protection, you shouldn’t be living there!!! Things are only going to get worse!! If you think that what happened in Paris and Denmark are issues confined to Europe……..

Moshiach now!!

police? shomrim?
February 14, 2015 10:37 pm

i live on this block and i am in shock that there is absolutely no police presence at all within twelve hours of the crime.

To Number 3 and 6
February 14, 2015 10:35 pm

This is perhaps not the best time and place to discuss the best response to this situation or a plan for preventing further occurrences. Maybe meetings should be arranged with the police force and a greater community outcry should be heard, but ranting and raving about it on collive will not produce the results you are looking for, particularly if the writing style you choose to employ is belligerent and aggressive. The merits and deficiencies of your points should be hashed out in a face-to-face public setting where you can put forth your argument and receive productive feedback leading to… Read more »

To #3
February 14, 2015 10:13 pm

Get real and stop it with the nonsense. There are 44,000 cops in NYC. Cops that YOU are paying for in tax money. There are enough police in this city to patrol every street many times over throughout the night. Here is the problem: they are not working hard enough. The best way to deal with crime is to prevent it from happening in the first place. This guy felt very comfortable approaching this girl, because there was nobody in sight. Why? Because most people are sleeping at 1:45 am. The police, however, are being paid (again, by YOU) to… Read more »

To #1
February 14, 2015 10:04 pm

I understand that you are feeling very shaken up right now, but don’t be so hasty to label all Black people a certain way because of the actions of some thugs and lowlifes. When stories like Bernie Madoff come along, there are people out there saying that all Jews are evil and money-grubbing fraudsters. Do you like being labeled as a money-grubbing fraudster because of Bernie Madoff? Please think about this. Comtemplate on it. Understand that there are many regular black people living in this community, just like you and I, whom are just as frightened by this story as… Read more »

We NEED Moshiach Now!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 14, 2015 10:04 pm

Amen!

To #3
February 14, 2015 9:42 pm

Everyone has seen what you have said a thousand times before. In fact, you make sure to write your rant on every article about crime.

What would you have done here? Pulled out your weapon like a macho man? The guy would have shot you C”V like he shot that girl, and perhaps even worse.

Unless, of course, you think you are some kind of fantasy gunslinger from a Clint Eastwood movie.

comment #1
February 14, 2015 9:31 pm

your ignorance and sarcasm are unbelievable!! The hate you insinuate (as shown in your comment) only causes more damage than good.

to # 3
February 14, 2015 9:08 pm

You need help

Locked and Loaded Lubavitcher
February 14, 2015 9:02 pm

I’ve said it a thousand times before, and this incident only serves to underscore my point further – if you can’t carry a concealed weapon for self protection, you shouldn’t be living there!!! Things are only going to get worse!! If you think that what happened in Paris and Denmark are issues confined to Europe……..

Moshiach now!!

Victim
February 14, 2015 8:55 pm

I had a robbery in my home last week.
The landlord was lax in ensuring the door to the lobby closed securely.
Now there was 2 other shootings since then.

A law should be passed that any building with
multiple residential units must have video surveillance.
The rents are astronomical and crime is up.
This will deter criminals and make the shechuna of the Rebbe safe again.

Aaron
February 14, 2015 8:48 pm

BS”D hard to be believe that the perp is black, there such fine people

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