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Fighting The Fight for Agunos

From narcissism to an activist who assists agunos, the upcoming Kislev N'shei Chabad Newsletter addresses important issues. Full Story

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Binyomin
November 17, 2015 10:41 am

Seems like the situation being dealt with in this article are clear cases of igun, ie civil divorce long done, mutually agreed upon divorce. And get being unreasonably withheld to further extort or punish or hold hostage a civilly divorced woman who is helpless and has no recourse.
What Are the “two sides”!!? Any rabbi who can defend such ex-husband’s behaviors should be defrocked.

Advocacy needs to be informed and careful, not wild
November 17, 2015 9:22 am

This is an issue that has often been misused to prevent reconciliation or to fan flames. At the very least, all thought out comments from all sides need to be posted on this delicate issue, that is rife for harm if not handled in the sensitive and delicate way that Hashem prescribes in Shulchan Aruch, which is Jewish law.

Think before doing
November 17, 2015 12:18 am

Given that a small percentage are the real agunos (whose cases are most effectively handled discreetly) and a much greater percentage of those cases that are publicized are cases in which the husband or wife (with the new “agunim” hysteria) wishes to take reasonable steps or is in middle of the divorce process (and a get without heskem geirushin is not usually a sefer kerisus as the Torah mandates). Someone waiting 20 years is one thing. And that is most effectively handled by rabbonim or experienced community leaders, which is not what’s seen here. What’s the definition of aguna being… Read more »

I am not going to get this issue until late teves :((
November 16, 2015 5:51 pm

I am not going to get this issue until late teves :((

Basic Misunderstanding
November 16, 2015 4:55 pm

When you call society Narcissistic, you are minimizing the real issue of husbands or wives with Narcissistic personality disorder which is absolutely different from people with a sense of entitlement.

to #9
November 16, 2015 3:30 pm

that question is explained in the article!

Can someone explain?
November 16, 2015 3:06 pm

I thought the term ‘agunah’ is for a lady who does not know where her husband is; when was the term changed to mean ‘any lady who can not get a get/?

thankful
November 16, 2015 2:59 pm

so thankful that this issue is being brought to the surface! it is sooo hard to live with and sooo hard to explain unless you live it! thank you to Nshei for bringing this article to the masses!!

to Dov
November 16, 2015 2:57 pm

you just proved the whole agunah point by the way u answered!
u dont like that she may have the ability to walk away and have freedom untill your happy with the deal and in your words” l they get their way”…well thats exactly the problem of an agunah! men are abusing their power over the woman !!!

WHAT ABOUT ?????
November 16, 2015 2:19 pm

What about the cases where the wife WITHHOLDS ACCEPTING THE GET so to force the husband to agree to unfairly receive less visitation, and shower money in an unfair way ,whilst getting the kids involved to gang up against their father…. WHO will take upon this shlichus???

dov
November 16, 2015 1:46 pm

To 3
If you had read my comment, I wasn’t passing judgment on the whole article. I did have an issue with that sentence, which believes that a man must always give a get no matter what.
Not only does this belief not help women, it only makes it harder, given that they believe they can get their get no matter what. It then makes negotiations that much more difficult.

rubbing my hands with glee
November 16, 2015 12:51 pm

this sounds like a stand-out issue! Can’t wait to get my hands on a copy. I MUST know more details about Rache’s life!

To "Dov"
November 16, 2015 12:50 pm

Why not read the article before passing judgement? The n’shei is known for tackling difficult contemporary issues, while giving both sides a voice.

psy
November 16, 2015 12:48 pm

very interesting and important to see this.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a huge, painful, devastating yet underrated in its severity. It should be known, as with other issues in this area. It is time to understand and deal with issues which we have the tools for now. thankyou

dov
November 16, 2015 11:56 am

‘It is the husbands duty period.’
Not according to Torah. If she unfairly withholds visitation, and demands money in an unfair way etc. She is not automatically entitled to it.

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