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FDNY: Blaze Started by Menorah

The fatal blaze that took the lives of Aliza Azan OBM and her 3 children was caused by an unattended Menorah, FDNY confirmed. Full Story

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BH Timely Safety Reviews for Everyone
December 19, 2017 11:23 pm

Perhaps after further investigation more information regarding the fire’s cause will become available.

Please, could the Rabbonim and the teachers in every community continue to review the halachos and/or excellent curricular materials pertaining to fire and other Sakanas (potentially dangerous situations) with men, women and children of all ages.

Rabbi Marlow, zt’l, stated that one must do everything possible to save a life! We’ll do what we must, and may Hashem comfort and quickly heal the Azan family.

The mitzvah is for a Menorah to burn especially while there are
December 19, 2017 5:05 pm

potential passers by still on the streets. This is Persumi Nissa. Also I don’t believe anyone would have lit the Menorah so late for young children. Doesn’t make sense. People who can’t get home until very late should light a small portable Menorah wherever they expect to be detained for at least 30 minutes to an hour. That’s yotzi the mitzvah & Persumi nissa!

To #4
December 19, 2017 4:35 pm

My father had the evening shift together with a lot of frum yidden at the post office and came home after 1am and lit the menorah than, my mother woke us up to participate in the lighting of the menorah . There are lots of people lighting that late.

Safety
December 19, 2017 2:32 pm

I thought the menorah only needs to burn for 30 minutes. So before leaving the house or going to sleep, it should be extinguished

Just saying...
December 19, 2017 1:07 pm

It seems unlikely to me. Not impossible, but unlikely, and a good excuse to promote “safety” or whatever. FDNY first responders are amazing heroes, but the fire inspectors are city employees like everybody else, and each one has his agenda.

Help the family
December 19, 2017 12:07 pm
SO SO SAD!!!!
December 19, 2017 11:36 am

I agree with #8. At first, I thought it was impossible, but, yes, some people work late & therefore light much later on, so the Menorah is still burning!!!!

Just such a tragic tragedy!!!!

sad sad
December 19, 2017 9:14 am

Where is the previous report that state it was a boiler that blew?

Smoke detectors
December 19, 2017 8:34 am

If the smoke detectors were working, what else could have been done as prevention?
Obviously it is a gezeira from Hashem

to number 2
December 19, 2017 1:22 am

say they lit the menorah at 7 or 8 and it burns till 9 or 10. if at 9 it started to heat something nearby it takes hours of smouldering for that something to actually burst into Flame.

I tend to agree
December 19, 2017 12:54 am

It seems unlikely that the Menorah was still burning at that time…not impossible, but it is a very convenient “reason.” Shabbos platas, Shabbos timers, Shabbos candles are all potential fire hazards, but so is any electric appliance, including TV’s, fridges, & electric stoves.

FDNY, your men & women are incredibly brave and dedicated, but don’t just look at the obvious when determining cause.

The names as i have seen posted somewhere else.
December 18, 2017 10:22 pm

לרפואת
יוסף בן אהובה מסעודה
שילת אהובה בת לוזה עליזה
דניאל בן לוזה עליזה
אברהם בן לוזה עליזה

Very tragic
December 18, 2017 10:15 pm

Why Hashem why, this is so sad

We need to get better education on safety
December 18, 2017 9:54 pm

This is a bad day for all of us , korbanos of Rosh Chodesh , innocent pure souls , we need to improve and also learn fire safety , I ordered some stairs worth 28 that you need to have I close to windows in case you are in 2 or 3 story home , a stair like this can save a life. Hope all communities around will speak about fire drills , emergency plan that can literally save lives

to #4
December 18, 2017 9:44 pm

some people work late hours & don,t come home till like 11pm or 12am so those that work late hours might still have the menorah burning at 1.30 or 2am.

Agree
December 18, 2017 9:26 pm

It’s the easiest thing for them to blame it on…I don’t believe it at all.

To #3
December 18, 2017 8:37 pm

Shilat bas Aliza (16) who is critical,
Daniel ben Aliza (15) who is critical,
Avraham ben Aliza (13) stable,
and Yosef ben Ahuva Masuda – the father who is critical.

Don't blame the menorah
December 18, 2017 8:09 pm

Hashem gave us seichel also, not just command us to do Mitzvos that may cause us harm.

Not possible
December 18, 2017 7:46 pm

No menorah is burning at 1:30/2am…for insurance or liability this is what has been given to the media…

In 2009 I had a fire and they tried to play the same game but an independent test showed it was the ball bearings in the heater plug

May the neshamas have aliyahs and be a guta betta for the rest of us and may the father and surviving children make a quick and complete recovery in all ways.

refuah shelema
December 18, 2017 6:55 pm

Please give the names of family members who need a refuah shelema.
Thanks!

how could this be?
December 18, 2017 6:34 pm

please Rabbonim tell us how a Menorah could take the lives of three yiddishe kinderlech?

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December 18, 2017 6:24 pm

soooooooooo sadddddd im crying:(

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