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Crown Heights Had 2 Gunpoint Muggings Tuesday Morning

A Jewish man who was mugged at gunpoint on Tuesday morning on Montgomery Street in Crown Heights fought back and attempted to punch the muggers. They fled in a stolen vehicle which he managed to photograph. It was the second mugging today, police told COLlive.com. Full Story, Video

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MOSHE
November 16, 2021 1:12 pm

YOU VOTED THEM DEMOCRATS IN THE OFFICE AND THIS WHAT WE GET NOW…. JUNGLE IN

Hero?
November 16, 2021 1:13 pm

He is not a Hero. He is an idiot. Give them your phone and don’t put your life in danger.

Self defense
Reply to  Hero?
November 16, 2021 4:06 pm

From the video one can tell that he has experience in some sort of martial arts, possibly krav maga. They had good reason to run.

He is a hero
Reply to  Hero?
November 16, 2021 4:42 pm

We don’t need to be known as a community of easy targets, sheep to be hit. People like this hero help discourage crime in the neighborhood.

opinions
Reply to  Hero?
November 16, 2021 5:54 pm

As you sit typing at a screen of sorts opining about someone who defended himself as he saw fit…. I get it. I can understand your armchair logic about not fighting against a gun. That’s what you would do. But “an idiot”!? OK. your opinion.

Not A Hero?
Reply to  Hero?
November 16, 2021 6:31 pm

So what should he do just let These Mishugoyim just get away with it? This place is already half jungle! Why let them think: “I got one jew, let’s see how many more jews won’t do anything if I just mug them!” this place is a free country, NOT A JUNGLE! Do you need money? ask normally! and even if they agree with the freedom of this state, they are still the same aggressive bored anti-semites! and then they get arrested! for how long? OVERNIGHT! and we just get the police hanging around for the next week and then they leave… Read more »

Actually, yes, he is a hero
Reply to  Hero?
November 17, 2021 11:15 am

HE is not the idiot.

how can you say such a thing!!!
Reply to  Hero?
November 23, 2021 9:00 pm

now you put yourself in that person’s shoes!!!
I’m proud at least 1 person had the guts to stand up for us and teach those crazy people
thank you so much for getting back at those evils!!!

YASHER KOACH!!
November 16, 2021 1:24 pm

Thank you to the brave man for fighting back and FOILING their sad attempts be”H!!! This, much more than law enforcement here, is a major deterrent- so thank you from the community. Hope you recovered quickly from the traumatic incident. We are no longer standing for these constant attempts at our community by criminals who can’t contribute positively to society and should be locked in cages for the good of the public. Having said that, it’s important to guage in each situation whether fighting back is possible and appropriate. Your life is most important and always comes first.

CH Yidden, Please Get involved
November 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Due to the very obvious dangerous increase and uptick of in Crime affecting Crown Heights, those that can get involved to help out should. All our Young Chevra, Older Mature Working Bocherim & Yungerleit in Crown Heights should be highly encouraged to step up to the plate, to get involved a little & to be active to an extent in helping their community. Older Mature Working Bocherim & Yungerlait should really consider joining either Shmira or Shomrim. We can’t always rely on other people in our community to step up to the plate to helpout, But to actually lead by example… Read more »

Hero?
November 16, 2021 1:30 pm

There was a gun. He could have been a dead hero, Gdforbid. No cellphone is worth the risk.

His call to make.
Reply to  Hero?
November 16, 2021 5:55 pm

His phone. His life. His pride. His strength. His faith. His read of the situation.

Their unsuccessful crime used against them
November 16, 2021 1:36 pm

How wonderful that after they unsuccessfully attempt to steal the cell phone, that same cell phone is used to identify them by photographing the license plate of the stolen car. What a bunch of losers. So many, many charges- assault, for pointing the gun; attempted robbery, illegal weapons charges, stolen vehicle, the prior attack earlier that morning.. If there is any responsible judge in the NYC justice system these lowlifes won’t see the light of day for a very very long time.

Disgusting
November 16, 2021 2:01 pm

This is insane, crime is out of control. A robbery in broad day light with passerbys. Whats next? I am happy he fought back and BH that was enough to scare the black rats but whats going to happen when those cowards start using their guns chasv shalom. Whats going to happened when fighting back is not enough? We cannot keep depending on police. We must take action by our own hands together. This was 1 against 2 and if I am not mistaken there was another vandal comming out of the car as well. We must fight back those… Read more »

I understnd the instinct to not give them anything
November 16, 2021 2:15 pm

But isn’t your life worth more than a cellphone ?
HE HAD A GUN.
BH he didn’t use it !!

Not so fast!
Reply to  I understnd the instinct to not give them anything
November 16, 2021 3:58 pm

It depends, what if it was an iPhone 13 Pro Max with 1TB of storage? (joking)

Is it only the cellphone they want?
Reply to  I understnd the instinct to not give them anything
November 16, 2021 4:34 pm

Who says the only thing they want is a cellphone? I have a friend who was mugged at gunpoint in Crown Heights a few years ago; he gave them everything they wanted, and then they went on to pistol-whip him, sending him to the hospital. Complying isn’t always the answer, and if we show them that we are not just sheep waiting to be eaten by the wolf, they may think of going elsewhere to commit their crimes where it will be easier. We all know they will be released an hour after getting caught and will be back on… Read more »

INSTINCT
Reply to  I understnd the instinct to not give them anything
November 16, 2021 4:52 pm

YOUR instinct and MY instinct is to give them everything, because we are wimps.

HE conquered his instinct and fought back for himself and for YOU, so next time they dont do it to YOU knowing it will not be easy.

Jumping on the Train Here
November 16, 2021 2:28 pm

This guy was an idiot. I’m glad he didn’t lose his possessions, but if someone is crazy enough to rob you at gunpoint in broad daylight, they might just be crazy enough to pull the trigger, too. Give them your cellphone, try to remember details and keep your life. This story could have had a very different ending and the guy was really lucky it did not.

Seriously?
Reply to  Jumping on the Train Here
November 16, 2021 11:39 pm

Why be cowardly? I’m sad at all these comments. My brother was mugged not long ago, his phone was stolen. So yeah, he gave his phone, but does he know self defense? No. Did they outnumber him a lot? Yes. Does this bochur? Looks like it, even if not he did pretty good self defense. And he was one on one to begin with, the second guy hardly did a thing. I think he did something worth being called a hero for. He is not an idiot! Please, use logic, think if you were in his situation. I certainly hope… Read more »

Say…
November 16, 2021 2:33 pm

where are all the fine Ker a Velters who were urging us about how important black lives are, to march in their support, etc.? They seem oddly quiet when it’s Jewish lives and property on the line.

Hi!
Reply to  Say…
November 16, 2021 8:24 pm

I’m here!! What do you want other then to pit Jews and Black crown heights residents against each other. I can assure you everyone cares about public safety.It’s great to see lots of people here – and to all of you I challenge you- which local anti violence groups are you working with and supporting? Do you partner with your Black neighbors to make the neighborhood safer? Do you go to community board meetings and precinct meetings?

You’re here?
Reply to  Hi!
November 16, 2021 9:38 pm

Really? Where are the marches? For that matter, why didn’t you say anything before I called you out? And as for the rest, are _you_ working with and supporting anti-violence groups, etc., or do you do anything other than running your mouth?

de blasio
November 16, 2021 2:59 pm

thank you de blasio who lives with 24 armed security for unleashing terrorism on our streets.

Vigilance
November 16, 2021 3:02 pm

Time for vigilance! This guy is an amazing hero, I wish he can speak publicly of how he had the guts to stand up!

New York State gun laws
November 16, 2021 3:41 pm

Right now the New York State gun laws are sitting on the supreme Court, God willing they will rule that it’s unconstitutional and that New York State “Shall issue” concealed carry license anyone who files, so long as there is no concern about that individuals safety.
If when this law passes IY”H, we don’t see troves of Frum Yiddin applying and obtaining concealed carry licenses, then getting proper firearm training… then I don’t know what to say.

Let it be known to any animal who wants to mug or harm a Jew, we have guns it’s not worth the risk.

Moshiach.
Reply to  New York State gun laws
November 16, 2021 8:34 pm

What about swords into plowshares? We could live with bitochon or…..buy guns?? Lax gun laws do not make areas with high gun violence safer. Almost all advocates and experts for safer cities say that we need more gun control.

Crown heights
November 16, 2021 4:31 pm

Who says he has a real gun ?
Maybe the gun was stolen too.
I dont belive that there were bullets in the gun .could be i am wrong it look like they wanted to fun. Who know

Krav Maga
November 16, 2021 5:21 pm

Take a self defense class/course!!

Perps look for EASY targets.
When one fights back it SURPRISES them and gives you a better chance of getting away.

Let's see more krav maga training
November 16, 2021 5:32 pm

And especially for the girls
Everyone needs to be able to stand up to abusers, molestors, rapists and robbers, jewish or not

How about carrying pepper spray at all times ?
Reply to  Let's see more krav maga training
November 16, 2021 6:17 pm

It immobilizes the criminal – giving the victim time to get away / shout for help
Even a super loud whistle
Until we take back the streets, everyone must have a Plan B

Self defense
Reply to  How about carrying pepper spray at all times ?
November 16, 2021 11:43 pm

Still, there will be situation’s where you won’t be able to access your pepper, and the only thing you can do is a self defense move. I learnt 5 moves to get out of situations, but I definitely think it is necessary to learn much more.

M.

Pepper spray
Reply to  How about carrying pepper spray at all times ?
November 19, 2021 9:56 am

Even with pepper spray you need to know how to keep it away from the attacker. What if they are able to grab it and use it against you? Taking self-defense classes helps with that also. You can’t rest assured saying I have pepper spray so I’m safe.

Thank you mr hero
November 16, 2021 5:57 pm

Hope your okay! Very worrying for us women, girls, grandmas who must go out to do errands and we feel so fearful and vulnerable.
What’s the answer fir us to feel safe?

The answer
Reply to  Thank you mr hero
November 19, 2021 9:57 am

Is self defense classes. There’s an organization that does classes for women and girls in crown heights.

YES!
November 16, 2021 5:58 pm

I love this. No not the mugging. His standing up to that ugliness. I salute you, Mr. White hoodie. Many many copy your stance and hopefully not get hurt.

Gun?
November 16, 2021 8:11 pm

Could have been a watergun, or no bullets in the gun..

Actually 3 muggers in the video
November 16, 2021 11:47 pm

Watch carefully, there are actually 3 muggers in the group. The 3rd guy gets out from right front, apparently getting ready to join the attack, but when the others retreat he too returns to the car. A very dangerous group!

...
November 17, 2021 9:54 am

This is one of the biggest cultural differences between where I’m from originally in the US and here in CH – you lot, men and women both, need to learn basic self defense. If more people stood up to criminals like this guy did, they may start leaving us alone. Is a phone worth his life? No – but you can’t say that giving them the phone would have ended it. They could have killed or injured him anyway. Criminals like this don’t care if you live or die, they just want to take what you have by any means… Read more »

Fake guns
November 17, 2021 1:15 pm

We should all buy water guns and pain them black. Those tugs will now think twice!

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