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Tishrei
August 7, 2020 11:46 am

If tishrei happens like normal, we will have another wave

1. Tzaddik Moshe Rubashkin, please close your house this tishrei
2. Rabbi Markowitz please don’t host meals for 770
3. Hachnosas orchim please shut down
4. Community do not host guests

I don’t mean to sound nasty or heartless, I am not. But I live here and saw firsthand my neighbors DYING, and getting seriously ill. I’m begging you to stay home this year

Nobody listens
Reply to  Tishrei
August 7, 2020 12:05 pm

They said lchaims shouldn’t happen with out of towners-there’s multiple every night.
They said people should wear masks-take a walk, you can count how many on one hand.

Sad but true
Reply to  Nobody listens
August 7, 2020 4:57 pm

You are 100% correct – and what about 770 PACKED with almost no masks ??? Very Disappointing …

Stop the fear mongering!
Reply to  Tishrei
August 7, 2020 12:26 pm

Can u please define second wave!? People just throw the term around.. based on the gedalia society most of us already had it, so there wont be second wave, rather a possible flare up for the vulnerable minorty, which yes of course we need to protect

770
Reply to  Tishrei
August 7, 2020 1:23 pm

the Rebbe said that 770 belongs to the chassidim
that means all chassidim not just those in crown heights so let the outsiders in if they follow the safety procedures that there putting in place

seriously nuts
Reply to  770
August 7, 2020 6:09 pm

the rebbe certainly did not mean for crown heightsers to be put into danger so that guests can selfishly come…what is wrong with you???

"if they follow the safety procedures...."
Reply to  770
August 7, 2020 6:12 pm

Replying to “if they follow the safety procedures that they’re putting in place”:

VIRTUALLY NO ONE in 770 is following any “safety procedures” whatsoever! Did you see the photos of Tishah Be’Av there?

If, at 770, “they’re putting in place” safety procedures, you could have fooled all of us, because hardly anyone is following any there!

Therefore, it is UNREALISTIC to put outsiders into 770 at all this Tishrei.

Where is a clear statement
Reply to  Tishrei
August 7, 2020 1:26 pm

Why are we not saying DO NOT COME? Not just hoping people won’t come and imploring them to have better judgement. We need to be crystal clear…this year we can not have you

Resident
Reply to  Tishrei
August 7, 2020 1:57 pm

You are right . It’s the only way ! It’s not fair to our elderly . And gd bless you for pointing it out in a nice way with out slander

Yes
Reply to  Resident
August 7, 2020 6:11 pm

I agree!!!!

move out !!!
August 7, 2020 12:15 pm

These are the Rebbes guests. Whoever objects could leave Crown Heights.

oy vey
Reply to  move out !!!
August 7, 2020 1:18 pm

What in the world does that mean?!?
That the people that have lived in and supported the Rebbe’s shchuna all these years, had numerous amounts of orchim, etc, endured all the losses, rachmono litzlan, should move out for YOU? Really?

you leave
Reply to  move out !!!
August 7, 2020 2:22 pm

these are the rebbe’s guests under normal circumstances not when they put our community at risk….how dare you?

What?
Reply to  move out !!!
August 7, 2020 3:35 pm

We are the rebbes neighbors. We live here. What are you saying.

Don't agree....
Reply to  move out !!!
August 7, 2020 4:17 pm

I truly don’t think that the Rebbe would agree with you.
The Rebbe ALWAYS said, listen to the doctors…..

What a cruel comment !!
Reply to  move out !!!
August 7, 2020 5:08 pm

This community has been devastated – multiple levayas for weeks!! We have buried our Mothers, Fathers, Bubbies, Zeidies, Rabbonim, neighbors and dear friends. Do you honestly think that the Rebbe would encourage “his guests” to come and put even one Jewish life in danger ?

Different times
Reply to  What a cruel comment !!
August 9, 2020 8:40 am

That was then, this is now. Circumstances have changed.

Rebbe
Reply to  move out !!!
August 7, 2020 5:16 pm

The Rebbe believed in science and the advice of good doctors.

Fair
August 7, 2020 12:28 pm

I understand the logic from a health point of view but from a point of fairness the policy should either be no out of town allowed or all… it’s not fair to say that because an individual was carful and listened to the doctors and Rabbonim till now and was able to avoid infection that he should not be allowed and one who was not carful or who caught it despite being careful is allowed? If we are worried about Covid-19 then don’t let anyone if we will let some out of towners in than let everyone and tell Crown… Read more »

CH resident
Reply to  Fair
August 7, 2020 2:35 pm

I am one of those people who were careful and did not get Covid19. True, I feel like those with antibodies have less to worry about. But it’s a psychological thing, not logical. I have to still be careful, wear a mask, not travel, while others feel more free
Nu, that’s just the way it is. Iyh everyone should stay safe!

Annoyed
August 7, 2020 12:34 pm

Yes
I agree with comment #1
Be mature and selfless, it’s not easy for all of us to do what is right
Which is to listen to the rules, but we have to.
Let’s hope this virus goes away like the good old days where we can travel wherever we want without any fears.

so ur annoyed
Reply to  Annoyed
August 7, 2020 2:38 pm

most people are annoyed with this fake virus news, all the drs are lying to us, they keep moving the goal posts and its all fro the dem party to try to beat our great president Trump. enough already, either you believe and have bitachon in Hashem or not

Trump is great
Reply to  so ur annoyed
August 7, 2020 4:13 pm

I love Trump, and the left are doing whatever they can to get rid of him. But were the deaths fake?! Are my family members coming back right after Election Day? Don’t be stupid

are you insane or just plain stupid
Reply to  so ur annoyed
August 7, 2020 6:11 pm

did you not feel the pain of multiple deaths daily and funerals instead of simchas for weeks??? this is not political…the agony the pain the loss is real for our community…except for you apparently

Grain of salt
Reply to  Annoyed
August 7, 2020 5:02 pm

When you see the governmental ‘health officials’ making the rules, any thinking individual can’t help but be skeptical about the validity and motives behind the said rules. NYC govt has failed its constituents on all accounts, no matter what lies the media will try to sell you. I’d trust Dr Rosen over any of the so called professionals and lawmakers calling the shots these days.

I love this, but
August 7, 2020 2:14 pm

People here don’t listen and do as they please sorry.

Nobody will listen to a word you say anyway
August 7, 2020 3:10 pm

Nobody pays attention to anything you say. They will all have guests, we will have a resurgence in the fall and winter, we all know that. This is no fun being a senior who has health issues after cancer. In my own building little kids have mocked me for wearing a mask, which I have to do. People’s sick attitudes are just as terrifying as the virus.

Sara Cohen
Reply to  Nobody will listen to a word you say anyway
August 11, 2020 1:54 am

Sorry to hear don’t forget uin the Aibishter eyes you are precious. We all applaud and salute you

Berel
August 7, 2020 5:05 pm

Thank you for updates that lay out both reasoning and conclusions, respecting our intelligence enough to lay it out in requisite detail, even going so far as to explain by way of analogy to help us understand what might have been otherwise difficult to understand for a laymen.

This is how expertise maintains its authority in our times.

No guests
August 7, 2020 5:32 pm

Just tell NO to guests, let them save the huge bill and donate to Chabad Mosdos instead.
Respect the elders that left here in CH or we will have more Levayos instead of sukkos

the vulnerable
Reply to  No guests
August 7, 2020 6:13 pm

may very well be your own children, grandchildren or relatives or you yourself…we are all vulnerable…..no one is invincible in the face of this demonic plague

Stores not enforcing masks
August 9, 2020 4:54 am

So the vulnerable have to stay locked up.
Why aren’t stores enforcing masks?

don't listen to anybody
Reply to  Stores not enforcing masks
August 9, 2020 9:17 pm

It is New York State law that you have to wear masks in stores. They are supposed to post signs outside each store that customers have to wear masks, like they post in every store in Manhattan. Trump said that it is patriotic to wear masks, and in his fundraising letter this week he asked everyone to wear masks when it is indicated. They don’t care about the law, they don’t care about the president of the United States, and they certainly don’t care about the rabbonim. They don’t care about the doctors. The Rebbe always told everyone to consult… Read more »

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