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Monday, 19 Tammuz, 5779
  |  July 22, 2019

    Bus Torched At Jewish School

    Black youngsters set fire to the school bus parked in front of Bais Rivkah in Crown Heights; police have a suspect in custody. Full Story, Photos, Video

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    Rabbi Moshe Muller, 43, OBM

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    Thanks de blasio
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    Thanks de blasio
    Insane
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    Insane

    Gosh they’re bored

    Oh my!!
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    Oh my!!

    This is crazy!

    title
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    title

    Thanks for the extra dose of racism. I really needed that today.

    Question
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    Question

    Why do you need to specify the skin color/ ethnicity or the perpetrators of this crime?

    Disgusting!!
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    Disgusting!!

    They should be fully charged!!! Look at that damage! And BH nobody was hurt but oh my gosh! And yes the skin color does matter because a few days ago a group of black teenagers were guilty of another hate crime and people need to be aware!!

    M. Laz
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    M. Laz

    Title is extremely racial and unnecessary.

    To #5
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    To #5

    You are right!!!
    It’s so obvious… They don’t need to!

    ch resident
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    ch resident

    Bh no one was hurt this time. I hope that the kids responsible for this are gonna get a consequence

    just imagine...
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    just imagine...

    if young Hasidic males set fire to a bus belonging to a black school! It would be a headline on the international news!

    Vadd hakak
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    Vadd hakak

    Let’s go for another photo op.

    Time to wake up the board members for the photo op

    To #5
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    To #5

    Well it is true. The fact that you see it as racist is your issue.

    (Just btw, when almost every crime in crown heights is done by a black – I have every right to be racist.)

    These hoodlums are only operative in the heat
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    These hoodlums are only operative in the heat

    That’s why there’s always a increase in incidents during the summer months.

    To 4 and 5
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    To 4 and 5

    The skin color is relevant. Crimes, especially ones such as these, are not racially neutral. We can never solve a problem if we don’t identify the problem for what it is.

    you feel ashamed?
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    you feel ashamed?

    what is so bad to say that blacks did it. yes they did it and they need to get punish for it, its not by mistake.
    its upsetting that things like that, and more that we don’t hear about happen and we are trying to be Bleeding hearts.
    I still think that it was done by punks and there are lots of nice black ppl,

    To   number 10
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    To number 10

    Your observation is tried,tested and true time and time again.
    The ones with the most noise are heard first.

    YES saying the ethnicity of the criminals is necessary
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    YES saying the ethnicity of the criminals is necessary

    Sick and tired of the politically correct bs,

    We are in a post political correct world.

    After a Sreifah....
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    After a Sreifah....

    Vert men Reich!
    Maybe… just maybe..,

    to # 10
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    to # 10

    Take that as a compliment, even in the worlds eyes we’re held to high standards.

    We need moshiach
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    We need moshiach

    Now

    #4 I'm sure ur referring to the black teens that did this hate crime
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    #4 I'm sure ur referring to the black teens that did this hate crime
    bsd
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    bsd

    on the bus it says bsd corp. so it is a jewish bus

    It's all good
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    It's all good

    As long as all streetsnin ch are reduced to 1 lane and parking tickets are being given out were good. No need for cops to catch and prosecute criminals, that’s for other states. Not NY.

    To#5
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    To#5

    white people in this neighborhood don’t blow up school buses

     I'm the bus driver that Chaverim  last week recovered my lock that fell in the sewer
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    I'm the bus driver that Chaverim last week recovered my lock that fell in the sewer

    Now you know why I lock my bus not only to protect my lollypops and prizes for the boys but for vandalism like this. I strongly suggest all bus driver’s in Crown Heights lock their buses! I’ve been in the bus business for 30 years now with a fleet of schoolbuses in Toronto and even locked them there. I’m so sorry this happened 🚌 Moshe Shomer.

    A freind in Miami
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    A freind in Miami

    Chaim does soo much for our community (CH) we have a chance to show our appreciation…

    BH no one hurt
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    BH no one hurt

    bh no one was hurt!
    we need mosiach now!!!!

    Black
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    Black

    whats wrong with saying BLACK – what are they purple? yellow? pink? they are BLACK so thats what they are caled BLACK!!!!! – you idiots what are u scared of???? You should also not say ARABS u should say: israeli citizens !!!-

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    Take a photo
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    Take a photo

    I don’t understand, people who are witnessing should take a photo of the kids this way we know who did it. It doesn’t help to run a mile to try to catch them m, and then they disappear! This total crime business is getting out of hand!

    Keesha Nateesha
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    Keesha Nateesha

    Imagine if chas vishalom the fire started with kids on board it would be catastrophic! Those African American (black) criminals belong in a prison (or zoo).

    Police? Yeah right
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    Police? Yeah right

    Like always the police won’t do anything. They’re all talk….maybe do something for a change!!

    Oy the shachors
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    Oy the shachors

    We do nothing and unprovokingly these shachors come up and torch a bus what is the world turning to

    hood   inmate
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    hood inmate

    to post laz and # 4 wake up
    this is wat it is . yes blacks
    the hate us . if u dont like it move to
    the middel east and there its arabs
    yes muslims

    Black lives matter
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    Black lives matter

    Why is it important to indicate who did it? Because they are the ones screaming they are innocent. Sorry it should be called like it is. Don’t sugar coat it.

    Imagine if title said "Jews burn bus"
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    Imagine if title said "Jews burn bus"

    I have no problem reading the article and seeing it was black kids, but highlighting it in the title is just WRONG and I don’t identify as liberal.

    Not cool
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    Not cool

    Yoir title doesn’t help matters and its racist.
    These people need to be caught and prosecuted, if they were green, yellow or white the points would be the same. It is only necessary when it’s relevant.

    May Hashem keep all yidden and our property safe.

    enough of the PC...
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    enough of the PC...

    we should not stereotype but this is just mentioning facts

    Mimi
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    Mimi

    These juvenile kids are always setting fires somewhere, its like a sport to them

    Enough with the political correctness
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    Enough with the political correctness

    Im sick and tired of those liberals who cry racism in every story that happens. If every crime that happens in this community is done by BLACKS and notice i emphasised BLACKS then we have every right to point fingers on them and label who it was so we can beware for the future. Their the racist ones for targeting a jewish bus parked outside a jewish school!! These animals start their filthy work when their minors who knows what theyll be doing when they outgrow their minor stage. Major things ch”v! STOP THEM NOW & LOCK THEM UP!! Thank… Read more »

    OMG!!!
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    OMG!!!

    thats crazy!

    To #5
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    To #5

    They were just saying black as a fact. It’s your issue if you find it racist. Besides for some reason it seems that most crimes in ch are done by blacks… just saying.

    48   yr  in  the  hood
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    48 yr in the hood

    oh my who can do such crime ? i cant belive it .was it chabad kids . ??? it cant be our wonderfull neibors ? it cant be they are such nice young people it could have been my son ? maybe the next boro president or mayor or congersman

    These guys are such chickens
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    These guys are such chickens

    These goim would only mess with bochrim, and not even all of if they a group of guys like me and my friends who are all big and work out they’d never bother us that’s not even hate that’s straight up “bullying”

    good excuse
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    good excuse

    I love that the police tell us a reason, like as if that is normal. “Well, it’s getting warm, so, we expect these kids to set fire to school busses, I mean, it’s WARM outside, what else should they do?”

    Such narish way of thinking. Dos meint a goyishe kup.

    Well … it’s warm outside. so ….

    It’s funny, it’s warm for Yiddishe kinder also, and they don’t go around setting busses on fire.

    end black racism
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    end black racism

    anti semtiism is bigotry too. and blacks can be as racist as any white person.

    To 42
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    To 42

    They wrote blacks in the introduction. Pointing out the race is rasict. Describing them is different than labeling. I.e. Rasict. And when rasism is okay bigotry is ok. And we have played the victim of bigotry.

    We need police to patrol the streets and after school activities for all hooligans
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    We need police to patrol the streets and after school activities for all hooligans

    Where are all Our neighborhood school principals ? AfroAmerican community leaders ? They need to take care of these kids – yes , they need to teach them tolerance and keep them BUSY !!!! off the streets !!!! where are their parents ?! who want the kid in a jail ?…….
    Where are our Jewish Community Leaders ? pls take care of it , adress it to police & politicians …..
    We don’t want vandalism here

    Identity
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    Identity

    I am very much a liberal but I don’t understand why you can’t say who did it or their skin color. CH is very much split into two neighborhoods of color and trust me the media would have no issues saying “an orthodox jew” did such and such. What I don’t agree is the zoo comment and such.

    but it IS relevant
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    but it IS relevant

    for all the above reasons. u cant solve a problem if u don’t know what the root of it is. which community is bored? which is violent? so which needs the government to provide clubs and extra curricular activities etc. to keep them out of trouble?

    We have a place...
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    We have a place...

    Move to Israel quick

    OMG!!
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    OMG!!

    This is crazy, but B”H nobody was injured. MOSHIACH NOW!!

    "Blacks mentioned in title"?
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    "Blacks mentioned in title"?

    The title does not mention blacks, it is mentioned in the sub-title. I am amazed that we have so many bleeding heart liberals in our midst, that only felt that the verbage ” blacks” is the only pertinent issue, and seem to be oblivious to this horrific and nefarious crime of arson. I can only assume that these liberal comments were made by those that did not experience the harsh years ( from the mid-sixties thru the early nineties) of racial tension and incidents. They for sure did not live thru the first anti-Jewish riots to ever occur on American… Read more »

    Solution
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    Solution

    Black whites Asian Latino …….totally irrelevant. A person committed a crime for whatever reason. They need to b found and convicted. Rehabilitate. Educate and forced to publicly educate others. Also if under 21 their parents and or caretakers should be responsible FULLY responsible as well.

    To 53
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    To 53

    Original title “Blacks torch Bais Rivka’s bus’

    Thank you COL for editing the title.

    Just happens to be that....
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    Just happens to be that....

    One in every 115 White males has been in American jail during his lifetime
    One in evey 15 black males has been in a american jail during his lifetime. Thats not racism its just a fact

    to#55
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    to#55

    Why is that though?

    well said #53
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    well said #53

    enough already!!! every other day it’s something. Some sort of crime or incident. Wake up people!!!

    SOURCE OF PROBLEM- GENETICS OR EDUCATION
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    SOURCE OF PROBLEM- GENETICS OR EDUCATION

    As long as they continue the lifestyle that seems to be an inherent part of thier nature things will not change and only get progressively worse. Just as Muslims rear thier children to vilify and hate Jews, the same situation exists with many blacks. They are raised with the attitude that they are prosecuted by the whites, and therefore are entitled to more benefits and subsidies than all others. Why can’t they learn from others how to better themselves. The Jews, Irish, Italians, Japanese , and many other ethnic groups were persecuted in America as immigrants. All the others took… Read more »

    to number 8
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    to number 8

    what your saying right there is totally racist..that obviously its blacks

    It was not
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    It was not

    The problem with many of the commenters on this site is that they are not looking at the whole picture. You blame “Blacks” as if it is the whole community who came together to burn that bus and not one eleven-year-old kid. An overwhelming majoirty of the black community is going to work, going to school, having BBQs and doing normal american stuff. The problem is you don’t pay attention to these African Americans you just focus on the negative. How many blacks did you see on your way to work this morning not burning buses. This kid is not… Read more »

    Mottel
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    Mottel

    We should follow the Rebbe’s shita and make sure the punishment for the crime is corrective – it should focus on community service and time spent learning about the Jewish community.

    To 57
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    To 57

    The article was well written.

    The first paragraph stated…

    “A group of young African American males set fire to a school bus belonging to a Jewish school in Crown Heights Sunday.”

    I have no issue with describing the group by their ethnicity and gender.

    However, The Original Title Stated. “Blacks Torch Bais Rivkah’s Bus.”

    I hope I dont need to explain to you the issue with that…

    Criminals in the loose
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    Criminals in the loose

    For those who have s problem with race being mentioned, since when do we not give what description we have of criminals in the loose? Just ridiculous to even suggest leaving that off.

    Source of Problem?
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    Source of Problem?

    The fact that they never have to suffer any consequences to their actions so there is no detterent. Tell that to the police who are a. afraid of them and b. mostly anti semites themselves.

    yes! they are black!
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    yes! they are black!

    To every single one of you who seems to find their identification racist has no place in CH!! Crown hieghts has 3 groups. Lubavitchers, yuppies, blacks. It has to be very clear that 99.9% of the crime in ch is directly from the blacks! So everyone has to know who to avoid etc. And you obviously don’t know the definition of racist. The true definition is then we put all black people in the same category. But unfortunately 90%. Of the ch blacks are potentially dangerous

    color
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    color

    oy. the issue here is that some people committed a dangerous, destructive crime. their skin color or gender are irrelevant. their age is relevant – since our society has ruled that consequences for a minor criminal are different than for an adult. if you think irrelevant personal details of a criminal are relevant, you are racist. then again almost every human is wired to clump things and people in to boxes. so we may all have a tendency to be racist. but if you consider yourself mature, responsible, wise, thoughtful, reasonable, then you might want to consider stifling your urge… Read more »

    Perhaps we should be politically coorect
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    Perhaps we should be politically coorect

    And say NON WHITE boys torched bus.
    But then again we still might to conclusion that they were black and that would be Racist.
    So let’s Not report such incidences all all and pretend it didn’t happen.

    title
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    title

    full charges should be done

    Political correctness
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    Political correctness

    The absurdity can’t escape COL. African Americans? The article can describe them as who they are black teens.

    again!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    again!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i was there after it happened and all i could say is that there are a bunch of crazy people in this world

    It is not a basis rivkah bus
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    It is not a basis rivkah bus

    It’s just parked by bais rivkah

    Yet again
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    Yet again

    This is becoming the norm. Another reason of dozens, we left.
    Miss family and friends but worth it. Sorry Rebbe.
    Or send Moshiach.

    Liberal jews?
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    Liberal jews?

    Stupid liberal jews…you have an issue with the headlines saying black teens? Well guess what? They were black teens who have no life or education and grow up in terrible homes! What happens if u call a girl a girl? Or a jew a jew? Way too racist for me…GET A LIFE YOU DUMB LIBERAL JEWS!

    To #5
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    To #5

    The skin color doesn’t matter. If it was a white male they would have specified that as well. It’s just a description.

    To #72
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    To #72

    Bais rivkah uses jofaz busses. They only have four bais rivkah ones, not enough for the whole school

    Member of 580 Crown
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    Member of 580 Crown

    I live in a building that is relatively new, yet the hallways are always crummy and dirty due to children. It’s rather easy to say that the fire spreads, but if the streets would have been more clean the fire wouldn’t go as high.

    Mimi
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    Mimi

    I heard on the news it was a 11yr old kid, they need to have after school programs to keep those kids busy

    smart
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    smart

    good idea having their kids do it.
    a lot less jail time!

    To # 4
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    To # 4

    Yes, it is true that it’s extremely racist to say that all blacks are criminals,etc. But there still are a lot of them who do things like this, and at the end of the day, THEY are the ones to blame. THEY need to take responsibility of their actions – no excuses. There are plenty of other people who live in poverty, and don’t have such good jobs – which IS the situation in many Black communities, and do you see them mugging people and committing other crimes??? Because many blacks do this, it makes us stereotype them in a… Read more »

    To # 76
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    To # 76

    It is a private bus company, not Jofaz.

    thats mad!!!
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    thats mad!!!

    i think thats a terrible thing to do no matter who did it and if a white person did it it would be horrid too!!! it happens to be that most if not all of the people who are not jewish in ch are black… its just a fact of life in my opinion and not racist at all…

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