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Badatz Rabbis Back Tuition Event

All three Crown Heights Bais Din Rabbis have expressed support and urge residents to attend an event dealing with the urgent tuition crisis. Full Story

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Will this be broadcast/? recorded?
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Will this be broadcast/? recorded?

The Tuition crisis affects all of Anash – Please let us hear !

Wow
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Wow

If ALL 3 rabonim signed, must be important! 🙂

agree with #1
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agree with #1

And please post a video of it.

Yitzchok
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Yitzchok

The only ways to deal with this epidemic is through fundraising, and or let the rich people in the comunitty pick up the deficit. They live here and have an achrayus to take care of the comunitty. They will say it’s a bottomless pit and that the money won’t go to where it’s meant to go, I’m sure they can figure it out.

Out of towner
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Out of towner

I Dont live local, however I would love to hear all about this solution/plan. please make this event available for those of us that live out of town.thank you

To # 4
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To # 4

I totally agree. The rich in the community should make helping their own a priority. we need you now more than ever.

transparent
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transparent

if the mosad’s books become digital and available online to everyone, the rich gives

I totally agree to #7
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I totally agree to #7

If the donors are able to see we’re all the money is going they will very likely give much more!!

I am broke
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I am broke

But why should the rich be the ones to subsidize everything? Perhaps we need to get solid financial advice from experts on how to live within our means. Some people manage (it is hard for us, not succeeding too well, but still) IF the rich want to help kol hakovod, but I don’t think it’s their responsibility. Why doesn’t the CHJCC bring in financial experts to have one on one meetings with struggling families to see how they can manage. Oh wait, the CHJCC does squat to help us – stupid question.

Chana
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Chana

Camp fees are very high as well, i wont even talk about seminary fees….
What is a child supposed to do the whole summer if i cant afford camp? No i dont live in CH and its the same everywhere? About sem, i know of a great girl who went thru months of anguish bec the seminary wouldnt take her bec the parents couldnt afford it. Tuition everywhere is so high that just to finish off the month is a major source of stress in most households.

To #4
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To #4

I currently am no rich man. However, we do not live in a communist country the rich people made their money they don’t owe us anything. Yes it is true it’s nice when they help support us. However, I do think many regular people are willing to support other mosdos before they think about a school. From all the Chinese auctions and helping others it is really nice but is would be nicer if we helped support schools. Peoples attitude towards paying tuition is how can u get the lowest possible. When I am in shul and hear people discussing… Read more »

Yitzchok
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Yitzchok

The people with money would know what they need to see , these people should put in writing what they want in order for them to alleviate everyone’s burden, I believe the comunitty then needs to work hand in hand to make sure those changes are made, whatever those changes are..

I totally don't agree
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I totally don't agree

The donors don’t have to see they have to give

Maybe management needs to change!
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Maybe management needs to change!

Maybe there needs to be complete transparency.
Maybe the schools/camps shouldn’t be run as a family business.
Maybe then trust and accountability would happen on both sides

To #4
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To #4

I am sorry but that is ridiculous. People can choose to use their money how they wish. No one has an obligation to give to anything or anyone specifically. If my parents or in laws are rich they should support me? Well then you should talk to them :). Everyone feels entitled these days. If you want to make $, get up and figure out a plan!

Two sides to the story
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Two sides to the story

As a parent, there are many elements of schools/yeshivos/seminaries that my children have attended that I wish were more transparent. On the other hand, having worked closely with a couple of school administrations, I’ve witnessed that the biggest ‘kvetches’ for transparency are the people who have no ability/desire to contribute anyways! Many of the ‘big’ ballebatim, who run successful businesses of their own, are able to recognize efficiency or waste at a glance, without scouring the moisad’s books. I’m relatively certain that if a group of businesspeople were to approach an administrator and undertake to cover the budget in exchange… Read more »

Tuition Problem Solved
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Tuition Problem Solved

1) Replace all the extra layers of administrators and their family members (nepotism) with new Professional administrator.
2) Open the Books for all to see, and keep them open
3) All families who do not own a vacation home and do not go on vacation pay $50 per child per month and agree to do so for the next twenty years. (layaway plan)
4) All families who own a vacation home and go on vacation pay according to what is determined by the administration.
5) School/Yeshiva must have a full time fund raiser on staff.

There is NO Tuition Crises
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There is NO Tuition Crises

There is a ‘Dean’ Crises. As long as the dean’s main goal is to make Chasidisher girls and boys, and ‘by the way’ we need to fund it, so charge the parents, we will have a crises. If you want to head a Yeshiva/Sem, the only thing you should think about a whole day is how to make money for the Moised for the sake of the student body. Proof is in the pudding, the heads of moisdas that think this way have lower tuitions! Think Rabbi Rosenfeld, Rabbi Herson, Rabbi Simpson and Lehavdil Bein Chaim Lchaim the Rashag, and… Read more »

Great To See That Someone is trying - But . . .
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Great To See That Someone is trying - But . . .

1) Remove dead weight and bring in productive and happy teachers.
2) Open the Books for all to see, and keep them open – THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT. Most Yeshivos wont even open their books to their own melamdim.
3) Tuition is before vacation.
4) School/Yeshiva must have several full time fund raisers on staff – NOT ON COMMISSION.
Most people wont give to commission fundraisers.

Much success tonight.

fundraisers NO commission
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fundraisers NO commission

No one who fundraises for Yeshivos should get any commission. They should get a nice salary on the books with benefits.
They must produce between 5 to 10 times their full salary. They must get secretarial support. Most important NO commission.

Citizen Berel
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Citizen Berel

No 15 you are wrong. Yidden who have money have an absolute Torah obligation to support poor yidden. That isn’t even remotely controversial. What is controversial is the extent of that support and the extent to which a yid is obliged and to what extent that moral obligation conveys into a legal, but the basic principal is uncontroversial. Perhaps we all need to dial the talk radio back a bit. Tzedaka, very famously translates to righteousness not charity — ponder that for a moment. You might want to peruse Nach sometime particularly the parts that presage the destruction. Or the… Read more »

the only viable, long-term solution
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the only viable, long-term solution

the only way to permanently change things is for the schools to produce graduates who are equipped to pursue a career which will enable them to support their families, including paying tuition. Unfortunately the product of our local schools right now are extremely ill-equipped for anything but the most basic, minimum-wage jobs.

40 years ago
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40 years ago

Exactly 40 years ago, to the day (2 Iyar 5736), the Rebbe discussed the tuition problem and gave the solution. I hope this is discussed at this meeting.

There must be...
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There must be...

There must be a way to rectify all of this! If it’s to open the books, then open the books! If it’s have a sliding scale, then implement it! Those working the budgets should probably not be the ones doing so, if they can’t figure out an honest and fair way to do that! What are the real reasons for the high costs, and why isn’t there a plan in place to offset the cost for those who would likely thrive there, were they give an affordable opportunity? Whatever it takes! Fundraising funds made available for providing varied amounts of… Read more »

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