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live in CH
August 29, 2013 6:14 am

cant figure out if its CH culture; bad upbringing or another reason; some of our youth grow up and become Shluchim, and they have to be warm and friendly to their congregants in order to be successful, yet while here in CH people dont smile and they dont say Good Shabbos; in fact sometimes they see you but avoid eye contact as they pass by so they wont have to trouble themselves dont get me wrong I have a good self esteem and these people dont mean enough to make a diference to my life but it is none the… Read more »

Beautiful!
August 29, 2013 12:26 am

Thank you!

to 29
August 28, 2013 11:38 pm

Again, being internally happy can be done always. Violating Halacha in which ever way is wrong.

Mitzvah Gedolah Le’hious Besimcha Tomid !

In response to 24
August 28, 2013 8:11 pm

Understood.

The bottom line is that simcha, like everything else is based on time and place.

Shaking a lulav on Shabbos during Chanukah is not a mitzvah, it is the opposite.

My comments attempt to bring on one point: no matter what the mitzvah is, even smiling , we have to remember “when” and “where”

oops
August 28, 2013 7:24 pm

I wrote comment 24. It was supposed to be for #21 not #20
sorry!

Beautiful!
August 28, 2013 3:16 pm

Thank you dear writer for putting your thoughts on paper. It was quite encouraging to hear your personal spiritual journey and the inspiring lesson you took out of it.

Be well, and never stop inspiring people!

wonderful
August 28, 2013 2:12 am

🙂
:~}
:-))
so many beautiful smiles.
#18, I could actually hear “R’ Manis freidman relate: “Why are you so unhappy??” “Oh, I’m frum.”
That is so him, and it made me smail real big. Thanks
IVDU ES HASHEM B’SIMCHA!

Cows don't smile
August 28, 2013 12:05 am

Here is a thought: Have you ever seen a cow smile?

What does it tell you?

Be a mentch and not a behaymah.

to # 20
August 27, 2013 10:33 pm

Being BeSimcha does not have to be a contradiction to adhering to Halacha. In my opinion, the only way to bring more people back to Yiddishkiet, including “kids at risk” is if everything is done with Simcha!!! Simcha enhances a mitzvah!! If you want Yiddishkiet to stay with your family forever, start finding good ways to be BeSimcha!!
If someone is violating Halacha, it could be done in other ways, like giving a dirty look to someone during Kaddish.
Why do you seem to have a general problem with Simcha?

Great message!
August 27, 2013 9:52 pm

Thanks

to Rabbi Engell #5
August 27, 2013 7:44 pm

In case anyone doesn’t know him, Rabbi Moshe Engel is the epitome of warmth and love, he has a big smile and loving manner for everyone. A true chossid.

#4 cont.
August 27, 2013 3:15 pm

I live in a community in LA where people are “phony”…a smile and a handshake means very little.

We learned from the Rebbe the value and impotance of a good word or a friendly facial expression AND we also learned the importance of acting in accordance with halacha…

Saying hi to someone while the minyan is saying/answering to kaddish is not holy…

Laughing and giggling before davening is also in the same category…

Our generation’s connection to halacha is crucial for the generations to follow.

Chaya
August 27, 2013 1:12 pm

My uncle lives in Manhattan. 30 years ago he didn’t want to register his daughter in C.H. The reason: Never a smile on a face. I don’t want my daughter to learn with unhappy people.

#17
August 27, 2013 12:57 pm

What are attacking him for? He asked a question and got a number of answers. No need to be so negative. The Torah IS supposed to dictate our thoughts, speech and actions according to time and place. And the Torah tells us to serve Hashem with joy and greet everyone with a smile.

Good point
August 27, 2013 12:14 pm

As R’ Manis freidman relates: “Why are you so unhappy??” “Oh, I’m frum.”

#4????
August 27, 2013 12:11 pm

What?! What messed up form of judaism were you taught?

to #4
August 27, 2013 11:22 am

We just learned it in the parsha, “…serve the L-rd your G-d with joy and gladness of heart.” Smiling is a great way to accomplish it, but not the only way. I remember Rabbi Marlow Z”L, who was not a big smiler, but he was always good-natured in his quiet way, and at times had a gentle humorous quip to deliver along with his psak when he was asked a shayla. Not all of us can walk around smiling all the time — it may not be our nature. The art of serving Hashem with simcha, and letting the world… Read more »

How right you are
August 27, 2013 10:27 am

Greet everyone with a cheery countenance.

This was posted on a board, outside a local orthodox shaul, many years before I became observant. But it went into my heart.

Today, my children ask me why some frum stare so blankly, look so angry, or are really cold. People are people, with many problems. But if you are dressed in the uniform, you have to play the part. It’s such a turnoff. We were in Central Park, chol amoed Passover, so any families kana hora, noses up, cold stares.

Wow,
What a sight.

Ari
August 27, 2013 8:16 am

How are you a slave to modern culture? I don’t think anybody owns you.

Excellent article
August 27, 2013 8:12 am

i sometimes wonder about people who are afraid to smile. it may ruin their perceived persona.

As an aside, the writer is obviously a member in good standing of the NY Chabad community. She writes “For Shabbos lunch, we had been sent to eat by a Chabad family.” The correct word is ‘at’ rather than ‘by’ which has crept into our English language from the Yiddish word ‘by’ which means ‘at! And yes, this caused me to smile!

KV”T to all.

It's a chiyuv gamur TO SMILE!!!
August 27, 2013 8:00 am

If you would study Gemoro you would know it says son in Gemoro Kesuvois daf 112 b
דאמר ר’ יוחנן טוב המלבין שינים לחבירו יותר ממשקהו חלב שנאמר ולבן שנים מחלב אל תקרי לבן שינים אלא לבון שינים
Which means smile and show your teeth!

To Chabad bt
August 27, 2013 7:16 am

In pirkei avos it says hevei mekabel es kol Adam besver panim yafos.

Also, the fifth chelek of shulchan aruch is full of instances when your obligated to smile….

:) !
August 27, 2013 6:47 am

😉 !

Well said!

To #4
August 27, 2013 6:06 am

It says in Pirkei Avos to greet everyone with a “pleasant countenance”. I can’t think of a better way to accomplish this than by smiling!

To a Chabad BT
August 27, 2013 4:47 am

It says it in pirkei Avos “Hevei mekabel es kol ho’odon besever ponim yofos”

very true
August 27, 2013 4:46 am

please translate into hebrew

Question
August 27, 2013 2:06 am

When you smile at someone passing who you can see that is Jewish ( The way they dress) majority of the time you get a stoney face back Why? what does it cost to smile back!!!!

PLEASE when you meet a fellow Jew in passing, smile and hopefully they will smile back.

rabbi moishe y engel shliach-long beach,calif.
August 27, 2013 1:22 am

i would like to say yasher koach to the lady who wrote this article. She knows the score and is 100% right.A smile ,a gut vort and a friendly disposition are one of the most powerful assets(weapons) we have. Notice the response you elicit with a pleasant countenance. You have won half the battle before you even begin.This is what we always saw by our Rebbe;He had a kind word and a pleasant smile for everyone. I once heard from a prominent Chosid, Reb Moishe Rubin a”h az dos vos men ken nit oiftuhn mit gutens vet men mit shlechtens… Read more »

A Chabad BT
August 27, 2013 12:53 am

Obviously there is a time and place for everything (smiles included) BUT where does it say in Halacha to smile.

The Torah is supposed to dictate our thoughts, speech and actions according to time and place not pop culture, not celebrities and definitely not ourselves.

Beautiful!
August 27, 2013 12:50 am

Thanks or sharing! I will keep this in mind!

Beautiful
August 27, 2013 12:49 am

Thank you. Well put. 🙂

wow
August 27, 2013 12:46 am

thank you

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