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A “Letter to My Supporters”

Anonymous OP-ED: This is what I would tell my supporters, as a contestant in the Vaad Hakhol elections. It is purely hypothetical, as I unfortunately cannot see the value of spending time and effort in running for a seat, being that there is so much politics, name-calling and smearing going on. Full Article

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to clapman
May 20, 2009 1:44 pm

i agree with 32
by the segal elections there also was a Rov saying DO NOT VOTE!
did you hold of those elections?

dont just say your name (that i do respect), say what you held and hold!
a name means nothing if we cant judge you.

to israel klapman
May 20, 2009 12:47 pm

did you say the same thing by the fake elections for rabbonim???
all of a sudden you become a tzadik and say “lets not take sides”, because that is your party line this time around!
last time you were screeming “a Rov said we should vote!”, and didnt really care about “going against a rov.. and showing our kids… blah blah balh”

your just a regular politican/fony/player who twisest everthing, and uses both sides of the coin

vaad hakol
May 20, 2009 8:38 am

The vaad hakol is more to deal with any outside officials as representatives of CH not to take care of what is happening inside the shcunah. So can someone explain exactly what he’s trying to say?

Care?
May 20, 2009 5:38 am

WHAT ARE YOU DOING THIS FOR???

Take a minute and think about what you want to accomplish.

Now talk

Gaboyim - 770
May 20, 2009 3:54 am

One this IS for sure. That whoever participates in elections for “Gaboyim” in 770 – is CLEARLY going against the Rebbes wishes. 770 does not belong to CH – it’s under Agudas Chasidei Chabad. Befor Gimmul Tammuz the Rebbe revoked the elections then. But now – people do as they please and FORGET that we still have a rabbe..!

Israel Clapman
May 20, 2009 3:43 am

For all the people scared to put their name, I’m not. What I want to say is as follows with all the garbage going on between the Rabbonim for the past five years and now a Rav saying clearly DO NOT VOTE whoever goes and votes is telling their family and children I know better then a Rav!!!!! The Chutzpa for those to then say that the rebbe would also not agree with the Rav they should ask the Rebbe for Mechila with a minyan!

Force the Rabbonim to resolve differences (response to 14)
May 20, 2009 1:32 am

Zabla and/or resignations are not going to happen in this case for various reasons. The way to “force them to resolve their differences” is dilute their individuel powers by adding additional rabonim. With this done they can overcome the impasse and a rabbinical consenseus can be reached. In batei dinim and other matters RO can work with the two chavrei BD he chooses to form a psak din. RS can do the same with two chavrei BD of his choice. This is why I voted for the three newer rabonim when those elections were held. Contrary to what some people… Read more »

real or not...
May 20, 2009 1:30 am

…this is a joke! He wants to see achdus in the community. Well, start with the Rabbonim. The only thing that makes sense from this piece is getting rid of all them & starting again with new, fresh people who are respectful, considerate, & open to the community they will serve.

spineless
May 20, 2009 12:24 am

He calls himslef a candidate, makes all these promises and does so anonimously.
How spinless is that! He doesn’t get my vote!

Stam a thought
May 19, 2009 6:38 pm

If he wrote his name, COL would probably charge him to post a self propaganda article. It would probably be considered as an advertisement. By posting an anonymous op-ed, it goes up for free and the point is made.

i agree
May 19, 2009 6:07 pm

we need new elections for rabbonim. we need rabbonim who people respect. the rav/rabbonim make a bais din look like a circus.

observer
May 19, 2009 5:13 pm

we have to demand of each candidate to undergo a psychiatric
evaluation, IQ test, criminal and credit check, and only if all of the above will come back positive, can a candidate put up his name for the eelctions.

CH resident
May 19, 2009 5:08 pm

Who ever saw any books with any previous VH?
We want to have elections we have to have serious NORMAL candidates, not a bunch of clowns .

candidate?........
May 19, 2009 5:01 pm

this election is a joke, have u seen the list of candidates?, one in paticular that is preaching a friendly face, he has a store in CH without a hechsher for years, has assulted and insulted many people inside and outside his store, is involved in a major family dipute with his father, and is known as a wild manand big mouth, are this the kind of peolle u want to represent you?, wake up people this wholl elections is beeing driven by people with certain interests, and there is nothing in common between them and the good of the… Read more »

Cleaning the roads
May 19, 2009 4:37 pm

Its nice to see that “someone” cares whats good for the community. you want to look at williamsberg or Boro Park they got the government to clean each road only ones a weeks instead of 2 times in most of CH or on eastern pkwy everyday. why don’t you get the government to take away street cleaning at least for shabbos so Jews could find parking before shabbos and not park 2 blocks away that would be Greatly oppreatioated or get the roads fixed like Kingston ave. between eastern pkwy and union ever fell on the tracks there ? I… Read more »

its our money, we should know where it goes!
May 19, 2009 4:17 pm

the closed book policy of M. Rubashkin (no one saw the books for 4 years!!) was the final push towards the two Netzigim groups.
i hope that an open book policy will finally bring them together

Candidates
May 19, 2009 2:48 pm

Anonymous sounds good, but many of the people who are actually running also seem to have their heads screwed on straight. I’m optimistic that the we will finally get some good people in.

why us
May 19, 2009 2:46 pm

why are we punshied
why are our children punshed
why are we punshing ourself
please i beg all of you just stop already look how much we lost

t s
May 19, 2009 2:46 pm

elections? (two or one or none)
rabonim? (two or three sets)
community? (fragmented)

and some people continue the facade as if there is one community with its rabbonim, and council.

nu nu

Force the Rabbonim to resolve differences
May 19, 2009 2:20 pm

We can’t ‘make’ ll the current Rabbonim resign. That is heipech torah and aginst the Rebbe’s directives. We have to force the Rabbonim to resolve their difference through an independent 3rd party. Both Rabbonim have to agree to come to a Zablo where each one can choose their own dayan and the dayyanim chose the 3rd dayan. One of the Rabbonim refuses to come to a din torah summoned by the other Rov finding fault with the dayyanim. Why can’t he agree to a Zablo?

Anonymous
May 19, 2009 1:33 pm

Why are poeple in this neighborhood so worried about writing names and not writing names?

read the article
May 19, 2009 1:11 pm

I suggest all those wanting the authors name, look up what “hypothetical” means, as mentioned in the intro to this op-ed. The author is not running, so why do you need his name? It is here to provide food for thought.

CMa
May 19, 2009 12:32 pm

This is not Soviet Russia. If you can’t put your name, don’t run. The lack of accountability in this community is astonishing, and anonymous letters are symptomatic of that…

To #1,2,3,4, & 5
May 19, 2009 12:08 pm

It says hypothetical, which means this is not a real candidate, he is merely writing as if he is one, simply to bring up some good points, which he did. If someone like this were really running, i’d vote for them for sure (except that im not a ch-er, so i dont think my vote counts 🙁 )

wow
May 19, 2009 11:56 am

It looks like CH is learned from the mainstream political structure, all those in power and running are corrupt and the good ones are hypothetical

sure thing
May 19, 2009 11:47 am

and i believe in the tooth ferry

people be real

this current election is only to create more strife by dividing the community further with all these candidates taking one of the rabonims side

stop listening to fantasy lets get real here we need first to get the rabonim to straighten out their differences
we cannot force them to resign and make new elections

that was tried and one ruv gives out a letter against this one and that one a letter against that one

No elections?
May 19, 2009 11:44 am

I thought Rabbi Osdoba said that is is no elections? What is coming off?

stupid
May 19, 2009 11:39 am

I could not find a better title. Everything that the person writes is seriously lacking. You talk about about williamsburg as a community with out annymosity – let me tell you it has more than we do. You speak about getting our act together – they have over 12,000 voters. They fill up much more than one community board. We barely have enough registered voters to hit 2,000. I guranty you if we even had 8,000 voters it would look a lot better. So before you point a finger know the facts. And BTW this very article is a serious… Read more »

agreed
May 19, 2009 11:37 am

please let us know – we’d like to vote for you!!!!!!!!

Lol
May 19, 2009 11:29 am

“we will have an open book policy” you cant write your name but you will show the books?????

Anonymous or not...
May 19, 2009 11:22 am

anonymous or not, he brings up some interesting points.

resident
May 19, 2009 11:12 am

this all sounds good but if you dont put your name we dont know who to vote for
and as comment 1 said be bold and put your name

Blah...
May 19, 2009 10:48 am

Why are you scared to put your name?

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