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Vaad Hakohol-CHJCC hopeful Zaki Tamir put together "7 Things You Wish You Knew: The ABC's of Voting In The Crown Heights Elections." Full Story, Poll

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June 8, 2010 8:11 pm

male chauvinists please step aside and let woman vote. What is this discrimination? The 20’s are over! WOMEN SUFFRAGE NOW!!!!

women voting
June 3, 2010 7:00 pm

I believe that in truth, its only the women who vote, now more then ever, and it has been going on for a very long time,
In Parshas Korach is where it all began and everyone knows that it was O’n Ben P’eles’es wife who did the Voting NOT O’n, and she saved his life while at it.
I encourage the women of CH to continue in the footsteps of the WIFE of O’n Ben P’eles and let’s bring Sholom & Achdus in our community.

June 3, 2010 12:51 pm

Let women vote!

in which century are we?
June 3, 2010 3:14 am

what is this? why can’t women vote? last time i checked, we were in 2010…

someone explain this to me!

Do women really need to be so upset about this?
June 3, 2010 12:02 am

Admittedly there are some service organizations in CH that often actively deal with women and (unlike in certain other communities) sorely lack the much needed presence of qualified women on their teams for certain services.. BUT, these positions at the vaad hakohol really are not one of them. In general, like #31 says, there are so many successful women-run organizations which you can join to make a difference. Why can’t we let the men run this one? Why does any woman really want to join such a controversial system, anyway? I think that, often, women want to join or vote… Read more »

June 2, 2010 11:52 pm

I can see the logic if you say one vote per household, but a single woman over 30 or a widow, divorcee, why should they not a say in the affairs of their community?

How about women?
June 2, 2010 11:49 pm

Do we not count?

Who decided
June 2, 2010 11:08 pm

where is the source for women not voting, where does it say?
and if a woman feels that she doesn’t have to vote because her husband is representing her, then she should make that decision, you can’t force her out because that’s what you think, let her vote for him.

June 2, 2010 11:05 pm

“Look at the sichos of the rebbe regarding voting the first time we had elections in the community”

Please quote them here. We’re all very curious. Thanks.

Vote for Zaki and Aron Vogel
June 2, 2010 10:08 pm

Nothing more inspirational than young men who have made serious changes for the better in their lives and now want to make a change in their community for the better as well.

Moishe Feiglin

June 2, 2010 10:05 pm

the person who gets the most votes might be the chairman but he is NOT the rosh haKohol

to #47
June 2, 2010 9:35 pm

can you post them for us?

women voting
June 2, 2010 9:14 pm

look at the sichos of the rebbe regarding voting the first time we had elections in the community

to #45
June 2, 2010 8:19 pm

who’s talking about electing rabbanim? we’re discussing counsel members- purely administrative agents of the community. there is very little religious authority vested in the vaad members. there is good reason why they are separate entities.

To #43
June 2, 2010 8:13 pm

OK, so you see no problem with women supervising Rabbonim.
One cannot argue against that.
The rational does not play on the turf of emotional.
Your posting has strengthened those who would keep the status quo.

to #41
June 2, 2010 7:59 pm

how naive.

many husbands don’t vote, don’t care to vote, don’t know the issues, etc.

what about women who are single/ divorced/ widowed?

please elaborate:
June 2, 2010 7:57 pm

“It definitely would be against halacha for women to elect a vaad that oversees Rabbonim, Kashrus, and etc. ”

Why? What are the sources? This has been the status quo for centuries, but does it have to continue this way if the kahal wants a change?

By Laws
June 2, 2010 7:41 pm

It would definitely makes sense for women to vote for the secular (social services etc) organization. It definitely would be against halacha for women to elect a vaad that oversees Rabbonim, Kashrus, and etc. The two organizations need to be separated for this reason alone. Furthermore, it will provide some system of checks and balances. A system of referendums also needs to be mapped out. This would provide a further check and balance, whereby the grassroots community has a backup possibility on matters of urgency overlooked by the Councils. Now: Who is going to write a clear statement about the… Read more »

women do get to vote
June 2, 2010 7:31 pm

Discuss your vote with your husband and let him do the schlepping all the way to the poling station to cast the vote representing both of you.
If you cant discuss it and come to an infored agreement youve got bigger issues to deal with than the vaad hakohol!

We need change...NOW!!!
June 2, 2010 5:13 pm

# 37, ON PAPER they are 2 entities. But when you have 1 election process & 1 lot of appointees doing both jobs you have corruption. What I don’t understand is, how they get away with it from a legal standpoint. We have lawyers here, men AND women. I will sign any petition to change the by-laws…so will my husband, I’ll stop cooking & washing his socks if he won’t 😉 #29 is quite right. And I definitely agree, COL listens to us. Now we have to get our husbands to do the same. Ladies: go on strike! I am… Read more »

to #38
June 2, 2010 5:06 pm

maybe this is the root of the tznius problem.

no respect for women.

June 2, 2010 5:00 pm

when one observes the decay in the tznius standards in the neighborhood #19’s idea is not so out of line

June 2, 2010 4:41 pm

This article is completely inaccurate. CHJCC and Va’ad are completely separate corporations sharing a mutual board of directors. There are several other gross inaccuracies.

June 2, 2010 4:28 pm

only cadaner could make a change!

June 2, 2010 4:19 pm

… when the bylaws are changed. This can only be done my the netzigim. Residents of CH, men and women, need to become familiar with the process by which we elect our leaders. If you know the process you can start moving toward change.

Too Bad
June 2, 2010 4:11 pm

The women in Crown heights are Tznius and they won’t make demonstrations in the street in order to get their voting rights,
at least COL is giving them a voice on their site (in the comment section, and they don’t censor it, Kol Hakavod).

old timer
June 2, 2010 3:58 pm

the present vaad did more good for the community in this few months then the old one in eight years

guess what
June 2, 2010 3:57 pm

im proud to be an american! where at least i know i’m free…. and have women’s rights to vote….. 🙂

to # 17 - welcome to the taliban
June 2, 2010 3:33 pm

Seriously, since this is not a halachic issue, it should be allowed to change with time! The fact that woman can’t run or vote is absolutely wrong. If women could vote, there would be real change. Take a good look around CH and observe which organizations are successful, effective and not corrupt or political (Just to name a few: ten yad, bikur cholim, KSCV, friendship cirlce, etc). Now take a good look at who runs them….. surprise, it’s women. Shouldn’t these women, who have the true good of the community in mind, be allowed to participate in choosing the communities… Read more »

heh heh LOL
June 2, 2010 3:19 pm

what’s a vaad hakol. good one!!!! 😀

How about Divorcees and widows
June 2, 2010 3:18 pm

I guess those families have no say in Crown Heights. Talk about women not making good choices. They did not participate in the sin of the golden calf . Throughout history we have seen the great understanding of women. Look at our Rebbetzins and Nivios. I think this is the influence of the dark ages not Torah.

OY VAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 2, 2010 3:01 pm


you dont know
June 2, 2010 2:54 pm

if you want exposer tell people about yourself and what are your plans. you made 2 mistakes and 1 omition:
1. Voting process is NOT conducted by a hired staff employed by an independent election company It’s conducted by the election comittee.
2. Will be only in one place 770.
3. you omited a very important thing the jewish male MUST BE SHOMER TORAH UMITZVOS

June 2, 2010 2:52 pm

thank you for this !!!!
now i finally understand this better

long time resident in ch
June 2, 2010 2:37 pm


The only chance we have
June 2, 2010 2:34 pm

Is to get Yossi Hackner in charge

June 2, 2010 1:51 pm

women should take it to court

Great Campaigning Zaki!
June 2, 2010 1:28 pm

Good move, this article should get you lots of votes.

It’s good to see that someone running has some brains, and even before he is elected he is helping the community.

To 5
June 2, 2010 1:26 pm

And therefore what?
Are they not a part of the community?
Of what gender is your mother, did she not raise you?
Maybe it is better for the have a ‘Daas Kal’ look what kind of mess the men made without the ‘daas kal’.

i know who i'm voting for.....
June 2, 2010 1:24 pm

i’m voting for the current vaad hakol!!!

To 17
June 2, 2010 1:22 pm

you sound like a muslim fanatic, do you want woman to start walking around with Burqa’s as well?

Thank you Young Blood!
June 2, 2010 12:58 pm

Zaki, inspirational! I want to commend and VOTE for the young chevrah running for vaad. Wwe need this fresh approach, untainted by history and bad feelings of anomosity.

I am hoping the entire community gives them a chance.


Women's posts show why they can't vote....
June 2, 2010 12:32 pm

women are more middos, men more seichel

also, see Rambam on why women cannot hold positions of power, be on boards etc.

liberated women is a klippah

a true liberated woman knows her role, just like a true liberated man knows his

why must we blur these beautiful roles which Hashem gave us?

Women vs. Woman
June 2, 2010 12:31 pm

Why does it seem as though neither men nor women can spell the word “women” (plural)? It seems rather simple… Woman is singular, women is plural.

June 2, 2010 12:12 pm

Woman know more about the community then men! Let married woman vote!

Women Vote
June 2, 2010 12:02 pm

This is 2010

Why can’t the women vote?????????

June 2, 2010 11:55 am

thanx for the much needed info

June 2, 2010 11:55 am
June 2, 2010 11:49 am

The fact that the Vaad & CHJCC are the same people makes corruption & misappropriation of funds more likely & more possible. But what do I know? I can’t vote, I’m just a stupid woman.

To #3
June 2, 2010 11:47 am

When hell freezes over.

June 2, 2010 11:46 am

when will women get to vote, maybe if women were involved things would get done.

Please Clarify
June 2, 2010 11:45 am

When you write 50% – does that mean 50% of all eligible voters? Or, 50% of actual voters in that particular election?


Mr. G.
June 2, 2010 11:45 am

A very clear and understandable explanation of the process. Thank you for providing us with this article.

Tamir has my vote
June 2, 2010 11:43 am

He is the people’s candidate. He has so much respect for the Rebbe’s schuna, it’s awe-inspiring.

to #2
June 2, 2010 11:41 am


Many Locations?
June 2, 2010 11:40 am

I thought the Psak says that there should only be one voting location.

June 2, 2010 11:38 am

when will woman be allowed to vote?

not fair
June 2, 2010 11:30 am

why can’t the women vote?

June 2, 2010 11:05 am

You are the man!