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6 Arrests in Lefferts Ave Drug Bust

Clean the neighborhood: The NYPD busted a "crack house" in Crown Heights and arrested 5 Jewish suspects. One fled to a rooftop. Full Story

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Nebach
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Nebach

ה ישמור

Finally!!!!!!
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Finally!!!!!!

So happy this happened. I have been pushing for this for a while!

BH
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BH

BH our streets are cleaner for the new year

Scared
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Scared

I hope our youth aren’t going to start going to the goyim looking for narcotics

in the know
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in the know

You guys are all making a big deal out of this nobody was killed or abused. No jew should be in jail these kids need help and we should give it to them. What if it was your brother or son would you write the same comment? Or would u try to help them.

sad
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sad

It is a sad situation these young people need some kind of help

Wow
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Wow

This is what teens are up to… what a chilul hashem. There embarrassing themselves and the I lives.

Very Sad!
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Very Sad!

“Jewish neighbors on the block all knew about this group of youngsters”
Did anybody try to do something to help these nebach kids??
Is there absolutely nothing that could of been done??!
What did the rebbe teach us so many times in siches, about seeing a house on fire (or on smoke, in this case) and thinking its not my problem..!!

sad, just sad.

Larry
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Larry

To #5 that’s the problem it’s not their kids so they couldn’t care less everybody thinks it could never happen to them and then one day m that’s the problem it’s not their kids so they couldn’t care less everybody thinks it could never happen to them and then one day bam

by the way
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by the way

I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD THAT #5 SAID!!!!!!!!
WHAT IF YOUR SON OR YOUR BROTHER WERE IN JAIL? WOULDNT YOU HELP THEM WITH EVERY FIBRE OF YOUR BEING!!

i know
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i know

I have been saying that house is suspicious. I’m happy they were caught and busted. they are lowlifes

To #9
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To #9

I think it’s more like, the kids didn’t want any help.
If a chassidishe looking man or woman would try to help them they’d get angry and ensure they never come back.
Not sure what else can be done for them.
It’s nice in theory.

Help
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Help

It is very difficult to ‘help’ kids involved in drugs, until they are ready and looking for help themselves. Do not blame the neighbors. You can reach out, but often kids will refuse help until something drastic happens to them. Many drug users end up addicted or overdosed, so arrest may have actually saved some of these kids’ lives. Tragic story, and the cure lies somewhere much earlier in life – kids need to have loving homes, good mentors and role models, and healthy, fun outlets and activities WHEN THEY ARE LITTLE KIDS, so that they feel secure and build… Read more »

This description in the article could be any Chabad House o_O
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This description in the article could be any Chabad House o_O

“The house was known for suspicious activity, with new faces constantly seen coming and going, especially in the evenings”

Zaki Tamir
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Zaki Tamir

As chairman of the crownheights community council, what can you do to help. Please step forward as a mentch. Thank you

To #5 in the know
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To #5 in the know

Yes, kids need help and we should give it to them. But they didn’t want it. And what do you mean “nobody was killed or abused”??? Do you know how many of OUR children R”L have died from over-dosing, or who fell or stumbled into traffic, or who took their own lives? Their parents and siblings would give anything to have them cooling of in prison now, rather than in the morgue L”A. It’s so sad for the lives that were lost or destroyed. And you dare to say “nobody was killed or abused”!!!. Now B”H this group was arrested.… Read more »

Sad
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Sad

The war on drugs is a scam designed to fill up the for-profit corporate prisons in this country. What is the point of locking up non-violent offenders who have committed no tort, at a cost of $167,731 per year to taxpayers? How is selling or consuming alcohol any different than marijuana or even cocaine? I thought the good “Republicans” of Crown Heights were all about individual liberty and personal responsibility? To gauge from the comments here, corporate fascism is more like it.

i agree
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i agree

drug rehab is the best

Lets talk treating causes not symptoms.
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Lets talk treating causes not symptoms.

Its painful to think how hard drugs have made their way into Crown Heights. The fact is there are customers (read someones child) buying this stuff. Addiction services need to be more readily and eadily available for ANY person who needs it, and education should be provided to all community youth

shiduchim crisis!
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shiduchim crisis!

Nobody will say it so I’ll just go out and say it!
THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE HUGE SHIDUCH CRISIS!!!

The problem is men in our community too
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The problem is men in our community too

Theres plenty of fathers with many kids out there in this community doing this stuff as well. Its not just the kids. Maybe let it start with the men and the kids will follow.

to 14
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to 14

I have no idea what you’re talking about

Please Help Urgent!!!!!
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Please Help Urgent!!!!!

Now that our motsei shabbos hang out house has been busted does anyone wana host a fun group of guys on motsei shabos starting at around 4am……..

Chabad is about accepting if you can drink we can smoke!!!!!

To #s 5,9,&10
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To #s 5,9,&10

What if it was your 14 year old kid that got addicted to Crack because of these reckless morons. Here you are with a kid that is already a little dumb, then bam! On top of his dumbness he is also addicted to Crack or heroine or whatever. No accused them of murder, they are accused of selling hardcore drugs in our neighborhood… Do me a favor and cry me a river. We have enough dirty needles diseases and drugs available, we are better off losing the crack-den.

Were they kids or adults
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Were they kids or adults

All the comments are about helping kids. But I think those arrested were adults. That’s a bit harder to deal with and help.

Scared
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Scared

I hope our youth aren’t going to start going back to the goyim for narcotics

#17
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#17

There is a point .drugs makes people crazy and makes u wanna do a crime and police are trying to catch people who are doing this to people

Good!
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Good!

If I was the neighbor I would have snitched ages ago! I can just imagine the misery they were probably causing to the families of these young teens!

special  rehab center in crown heights
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special rehab center in crown heights

כל המציל נפש אחת מישראל כאילו הציל עולם מל א , The community council together with met council And professional people,אי”ה will work out to help And save our children,and the money they spending Every day,and the health.keep them learning and Working,give them love and care,this institute will Cost money,they will collect from everyone,like Any organization in our community, for rehab Center everybody will give.we help orchim from All over the world ,giving them full אשל for 4 weeks So we c an help our children first,עניי עירך קודמים. Pleas dont wait ,now is the time to save them. This… Read more »

Help
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Help

These people are probably addicts as in people with a addictive disease that need to know that there is help in narcotics anonymous not nebachs….

Not a rav
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Not a rav

However I have a freind who was on drugs was at these houses and got help and encouragement from freinds and is off drugs and living a nice life b”h I don’t think locking them up behind bars is the solution the תורה isn’t pro prison most people let out end up back in there has to be another way they need someone to talk to and tell them a good word and those who are are happy and say bh the we’re arrested where is your אידישע הארץ did you ever try to help them???

Marc
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Marc

Illegal narcotics is a political issue years ago you can walk into the drugstore and buy the stuff no prescription needed

we are all responsible!!!
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we are all responsible!!!

We are all responsible for what happen to our new generation. Parents, schools: principal, rabbis, teachers ARE pushing our kids out of the schools or yeshiva because they don’t fit, because they need more attention and warmth. Instead we kicked them out because too hard for our brain to find solution to save them. This outside world that we are so been taught by the torah that it’s harmful for any jew we are sending them straight head first like jumping into a pool with no water. WE KNOW they are going straight to their destruction and the destruction of… Read more »

To 8
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To 8

You asked if anyone tried to help these kids While I’m sure your intentions were good people always come after the fact and say did anyone try to help maybe you don’t know maybe the family has been trying to help for years and the child will not cooperate Johnny-come-lately’s have no business judging

ch resident
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ch resident

can u post the names of the jewish ones that were arrested. Instead of wasting time writing comments and giving our input lets do something for there neshamas and say some tehillim for them

Pidyon Shevuyim - The hard part
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Pidyon Shevuyim - The hard part

The hardest part of being a chosid in this sitch is the bipolar position every yid expected to take. The actions of these men will be handled by a court of law. We are expected to step aside and leave it to the judge and jury. BUT shabis bereshis in jail?! NO. CHANGE HATS – Get the guys out, and we will daven with them, and give them each an Aliya and pray to our creator!

Wake up and smell the coffee!!
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Wake up and smell the coffee!!

go around and see how many men are smoking up what do expect from these kids?!! Practice what you preach all the big talkers that want to ‘help’ the first step is to get help yourself!!

hoping
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hoping

Hopefully they’ll get the help they really need now!!!

:)
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:)

Dealers don’t usually use.

Agree with #33
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Agree with #33

You are absolutely right, I personally experienced this when a well known magid shiur in a local yeshiva kicked me out and I brought this up to him in front of the entire class that it will be his achrayus if I end up marrying a shiksa and he cold heartedly said he didn’t care.

Mind you this may have been presented to the class for underperforming, however I know it was more because of my parents being unable to make some tuition payments.

my two cents..
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my two cents..

firstly 20, you’re hilarious.

and being familiar with getting busted for something i can truly say that it’s a blessing for them that they are in trouble with the law, because once that happens it often (and hopefully will for these kids) scares the wits out of people and really corrects them for their entire future. i hope fellow community members offered help first, but if that didn’t work, then as i said, it’s good they are getting put in their place now as youngsters.

I Hope They Get Help
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I Hope They Get Help

The step before the drugs is having mashkeh poured down their throats.

Help!!!!
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Help!!!!

Obviously the right kind of person gotta help!!!
Not just any randome mashpiah….

Chevra
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Chevra

We need to have a professional rehab drug center created here in our own community. Even the higher ups in our community are smoking up. It is truly a sad day. How far have we fallen. What kind of example are you creating for future generations Need to have a 12 step program in place.

This is Golus
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This is Golus

My brother got arrested for dealing anf that was his biggest yeshua. A lubavitch boy from the right family and all the yeshivas out there!
Went to rehab and joined NA. Some people just need to hit rock bottom in order to pick up.
Hashem should give their parents and siblings the Cochmah and strength to deal with this.

Each one of us should take a moment to reach out to a child. can be your own child and show them that they are a ben Yachid.
We need Moshiach now.

To number 5
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To number 5

You are right! Putting people in jail won’t help at all.
It won’t take long for a new entrepreneur to step in to fill the demand.

to 44
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to 44

Rehab Center for Alcoholics as well.

And BTW, smoking up? if you mean pot, alcohol is on that same level if not worse.

Both are wrong,,

with the old breed
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with the old breed

so have things hit bottom yet…when can it better. you know there is no more sand for people to stick their heads.

special  rehab center in crown heights
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special rehab center in crown heights

כל המציל נפש אחת מישראל כאילו הציל עולם מל א , The community council together with met council And professional people,אי”ה will work out to help And save our children,and the money they spending Every day,and the health.keep them learning and Working,give them love and care,this institute will Cost money,they will collect from everyone,like Any organization in our community, for rehab Center everybody will give.we help orchim from All over the world ,giving them full אשל for 4 weeks So we c an help our children first,עניי עירwe need to help themך קודמים. Pleas dont wait ,now is the time… Read more »

addiction
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addiction

Addiction- a disease process model should be used.Often it is when they hit rock bottom that they seek help.No one can do it for them.I’ve seen the best of them hit rock bottom-as a nurse I’ve not seen many yidden-don’t live in CH-but I’ve seen lawyers,docs,etc hit it hard and when they lost it all,they finally sought help.They wanted it as much as their drugs.With teens,there should be support groups and avenues of help/rehab available to them.Instead of being slammed to the ground emotionally,they need intervention and assistance and guidance.They are kids!You’d be surprised what compassion can do.the 12-step program… Read more »

Shut this conversation up
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Shut this conversation up

Bh

An appeal for money for aliya and aliya girls ought to shut this conversation up.
These two (separately funded) organizations have undertaken the gargantuan task of assisting the youth.
If you’d like to be of help get in touch with them. The have huge budgets that don’t even nearly cover the need.
We all care. Let’s all do something!

like number 4 said
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like number 4 said

maasser all you want on a fellow yid, your children will be coming to non jews now for the inevitable

Rehab
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Rehab

Rehab isn’t a cure, it is a means for people to try to find a better solution (people that actually go). It is left up to them after they leave just like if they decide on their own to stop. Rehab, if anything, gives people more the reason to not be afraid of using..

To #15
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To #15

What can U do to help????

To 8
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To 8

You asked if anyone tried to help these kids While I’m sure your intentions were good people always come after the fact and say did anyone try to help maybe you don’t know maybe the family has been trying to help for years and the child will not cooperate Johnny-come-lately’s have no business judging

chinuch
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chinuch

it lies in the mechanchim!
be compassionate to your students not another wall for them to bang there heads against. SEE THE GEM THAT THEY ARE dont get caught up in the little shmouts that might at first take away their shine. in other words realize that it is a shlichus of the rebbe so dont let your ego take over. too many times if we would be a bit more bittuldick we would see the truth!!!

Addiction
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Addiction

Everyone has a friend or knows someone that smokes pot regularly. Ask yourself if these people are criminals or if the majority of them are dysfunctional? Are they destroying their family or community around them? I think most of you would say that such assertions are ridiculous. Most people, due to the illegality of drugs, have made these substances worse then they really are. Almost everyone agrees that alcohol is worse for you then pot. No one has ever overdosed from pot. So what is the solution? The same solution to alcohol addiction. If someone was addicted to having multiple… Read more »

Previous problems
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Previous problems

For these people drugs are not the problem it’s the solution
To what ever hard ships they had or have

dont judge
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dont judge

Can’t judge the parents, I’m sure they did everything they can to help their children. Sometimes it’s the hard way through punishment that they shape up. Let’s hope that they and otherslearn their lesson

sad
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sad

Maybe they should go the Chabad Rehad in Los Angeles, my friend’s son went there and fully recovered and will soon be getting married!!

practice what you preach
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practice what you preach

AS TONS OF YOU OTHERS HAVE JUST SAID WE NEED TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME AND CHITTER CHATTERING OUR OWN OPINOINS!!!!!!!

on a more PERSONAL note
me, myself got addicted to cocaine and went to a chabad rehab in Los Angeles for 2 years -my uncle talked me into going- now boruch hashem 5 years later i am married with kenayne hara 3 beautiful children the best thing for these children is to be a rrested!!!!!!!!!!

black neighbor on the block
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black neighbor on the block

It’s so funny how so many of you jews are saying that no jew should be in jail. But if these were black people you guys would be just fine with them going to jail. So so funny

to 33
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to 33

im a bochur i n yeshiva and have seen some friends getting kicked out. the policy that i believe the rebbe set up is that you kick him out when he starts it have an affect on others. how do you think this developed to a group of 5 or 6 bochurim? most probably they were friends in yeshiva that were kicked out/dropped together. get rid of them before they turn into a group!

to #4
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to #4

This has already been happening on Montgomery Avenue since years ago. Perhaps still going on. Happy that they were turned in finally. Better to stop this drug problem than worrying about telling on another Yid, isn’t it?

Help them when they're little kids!
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Help them when they're little kids!

The Rebbe said in many sichos that the responsibility for a child’s chinuch lies with not only the parents and schools, but also the brothers and sisters, the bubbies and zaides, the aunts and uncles, and the NEIGHBORS! I see some very young neighbor kids whose parents are pretty dysfunctional and clueless, and others who are normal parents but the kids are just difficult. The kids get in trouble for 6-year-old or 9-year-old stuff. I have always tried to be the best neighbor I can to all kids by simply being kind to them, by keeping my mouth shut as… Read more »

to #62
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to #62

I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
ITS SO CRAZY AND RACIST!!!!
hashem yishmor

re: getting it elsewhere...
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re: getting it elsewhere...

Though deeply pained by this situation I really have no sagacious advice or surefire solutions to offer. Nobody is advocating that these young people not be loved or cared about, but how to reach them and convince them that they are destroying themselves is a question to which I have no answer. Having said this, I’m still having a hard time following the logic of those who seem to feel the situation should have been left alone and allowed to fester in the community because ‘ now they’ll have to go elsewhere for their drugs.’ Are you saying it’s preferable… Read more »

Pot is for morons
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Pot is for morons

Maske is *not* worse than pot. Stop repeating that lie. Mashke has and can be used to serve G-d in the highest manner as is evidence by the practice of tzadikim throughout the history of the Jewish nation. It’s enshrined in Halacha. You cannot point to a single point of evidence that the same holds true for pot. What confuses many simpletons is this: Alcohol abuse (in the obvious sense, not in the sense of mommies against farbregens) is likely worse than pot abuse. BUT the proportion of abusers to those who use it to good affect is much much… Read more »

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