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Katzman’s Thoughts on Elections

From the COLlive inbox: With the campaign over, Yosef Katzman of the Crown Heights election committee is publicly asking Mechila. Full Story

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July 11, 2010 3:17 am

I agree with you!

Some parental advice to a Mom
July 8, 2010 6:03 pm

To Crown Heights Mom: He never said that he did anything wrong. Period. He only wrote that since others felt hurt by his actions he is asking for their forgiveness. The fact is that you accuse him anonymously that he made up lies and innuendo and wrote pashkvilen about people doesn’t turn them into facts. Kindly say who you are and prove every word that you wrote. Otherwise, like a good mother that you are, show your children how you are supposed to apologize for slandering a man who has the guts to put his name to what he writes… Read more »

Crown Heights Mom
July 8, 2010 5:06 pm

When I teach my kids to apologize, they know they have to say “I am sorry for doing x,y,z,” not just a generic “I’m sorry.” If he is truly sorry for the filth he spread the past few months, let him own up to it and apologize for real. “I am sorry I made up lies (that x,y,z) about honorable people (Mr, X, Y, Z) to further my own bleak agenda. I was wrong and the outcome showed that despite my best (worst) efforts, people eventually see through it. I apologize for using every tool at my disposal–letters in my… Read more »

almost each and every one of you for the love of G-d, please.....
July 8, 2010 2:28 pm

work on your spelling and grammar, its depressing to read your scribblings.

to # 35
July 8, 2010 12:14 pm

the only one that lost are poltrak – sperlin – and the other one!! big deal hecht and others werent voted in but the 3 were voted out!!

the election of rov will determine
July 8, 2010 11:42 am

Reading all the responses we see two opposing opinions: some believe him, some don’t.
Let’s see his actions during the upcoming elections for a Rov!
we will know if he a chosid

yes ! we forgive you
July 8, 2010 11:34 am

hope you are honest chodesh elul will tell

Yosel, you told me that your goal is to get out the old vaad and get in Hecht...
July 8, 2010 11:07 am

Now you selling us the young story.. Mechila doens’t mean bragging about your ”success”. It also doesn’t mean lying about your intentions. Its quite obvious that this is more about trying to say that you won than asking mechila for slandering good people about something you know is not messira, (To Readers: ask any laywer what a supeona is). You know very well that you get in hecht and you didn’t get rid of the old vaad.. Sorry but sometimes you loose in life. Learn how to accept it. you are maybe fooling some young guys but you can’t fool… Read more »

to #18
July 8, 2010 10:14 am

it’s annoying when you use “&” so many times.

yaaaa
July 8, 2010 8:36 am

go uncle joe!

ONE MORE QUESTION....
July 8, 2010 8:01 am

I hear an apology for inadvertant slights that may have taken place. If this was the only thing that occurred, i would see no problem forgiving and forgetting. These things do happen…. However, blatant, conscious attacks on innocent people are not forgotten so easily, and I see no apology for those.
Just wondering— what “higher goal” do these acts of intimidation accomplish?

Echta Ve'ashuv
July 8, 2010 3:25 am

This is just a classic
“This is also consistent of course with Torah and Halacha, as hinted to in the last Mishna in Shas where it is mentioned about the ways of Talmidei Chachomim who even though they get into very heated discussions, still they end by bringing more peace into the world by going in the ways of Torah.”

In other words: True I played dirty American politics, but it was for the Aibishter.

You should take the time to read Mishlei, Micha and Yeshaya. They have some choice words about those shennanigans

Katzman made a big political mistake! he could of had hecht!
July 8, 2010 2:46 am

in the first election, Katzman made sure that the challenged votes were all counted, in order to keep Bronstein out (who missed it by just 3 votes!)
had he let Brownsein in the first time around, hecht would have won hacker for sure, (who only got in because he was everyones second vote)
that is a big political mistake

to # 21
July 7, 2010 9:40 pm

you sound really mad, like you want to punch something or someone. please do tell us whats wrong, and what bothers you that someone asked for mechila!! are you upset that the 3 others lost in the election? and out of 4 only 1 got in? are you upset that 2 great young guys who will bring peace to the heights got in and are you afraid of the good they will do? and the peace they will bring to this community? whats wrong? take a deep breath and a drink of water and relax a bit. hopefully you will… Read more »

Thank you Rabbi Katzman
July 7, 2010 9:31 pm

Thanks for running this election, this just shows the world where CH really stands 50/50, that not everyone is crazy. IYH next time around will be a bigger Nitzachon,

And thank you Shea for everything.

Thanks again!

a shliach who used to live in ch
July 7, 2010 9:01 pm

where is an apology to r fishel not fishel anymore, after what u and cronies did to him i bli neder will only call him r fishel i hope he wont be in mh’s hands but he is a mench u used to be one but have gone sour in a big way u owe the community an apology for causing shea hecht to lose, we need his resources. i have spoken to several residents of ch who were happy fishel won , only because u besmirched him so. hopefully he wil run again and be one of a bigger… Read more »

moshe der g
July 7, 2010 9:01 pm

yossel
you are a great campaigner and you are a great toiyen and above all you are a mentch

at least you have the guts to say election is over now we are all one and should love each other

i hope we will see you involved in elections for a rov. we need your guidance and energy to get people involved

chazak chazak

STOP THE HATE START WITH HA'HAVAS YISROEL
July 7, 2010 8:55 pm

all of you ba’alai machlokes (does that want to keep the hate flame burning) please keep your comments to your self, the toroh teaches us that teshuvo helps and that the only one that really knows the truth is hashem, but we have to hold everyone bichezkas kashrut, unless of course you come out openly with your HATE that they mean what they say.
Kol Hakovod to Yosef HaKohen Katzman…

Yasher Koach from Yecheskel Freund
July 7, 2010 8:46 pm

Thank you. May we all work in a conciliatory fashion to bring our Schecuna together with a strong united Bais Din and supportive Vaad Hakohol.

Only Katzman's Side
July 7, 2010 8:37 pm

The “Other” Would never have the courtisy to admit wrong doing;;;;;;;;;;

To his credit
July 7, 2010 8:34 pm

If you embarrass someone in public, you have to apologize in public and I commend him for doing so.

He is full of it
July 7, 2010 8:33 pm

Whom does he think he is fooling? He is taking all of us (the young generation voters) “for a bunch of naive fools”, to believe him on THAT ?????? We all know where Katzman stood in this election campaign and we all know whom he wanted Hecht in his election campaign and we all know that Katzman lost big time. He lost 100% of what he was campaigning for. Katzman was campaigning for Hackner_Hecht, but both sides had no argument with Hakner. The real competition was between Fishel Brownstein and Shiah Hecht and Katzaman was fighting tooth and nail for… Read more »

Hey
July 7, 2010 7:38 pm

Yosel is as classy as they get, like they say in Hebrew a Peh Mapik Margoliyos!
He did nothing wrong when he was approached by RabbI Ozdobo to get involved he did what a Chosid does and helped the Rov.
Now that this election is over on his own will he is asking Mechila WE SHOULD ALL LEARN FROM HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

G-D should bless him and give him long years.

mentshlich
July 7, 2010 7:29 pm

it was manly of him to put the passion of the election past him, and to the nasty comments, you are very little men.

Mr. W. – Empire Blvd.

To all the doubters etc.
July 7, 2010 7:26 pm

Especially 9, 11, 13 & 14. The man has publicly & we assume genuinely asked for Mechilah for the past.We are in the 3 weeks of mourning over The Bais Hamikdash & look around us & see all of the hate & Machloikes around us.He is trying to change that & present Achdus & shalom at least on his part why can’t you & others do the same? If we see later that he is ch”v not genuine then you can blast him berate him as required Al pi Halacha & Al pi Tanya but, until then step forward do… Read more »

Seriously
July 7, 2010 7:23 pm

First of all, he was NOT the one who started the machlokes, he only was there once they started sorting it out.
Second of all, he has not made ENEMIES with anyone on his part, only disagreed strongly, so its o.k. to still be friends
Third of all, he does deserve some credit for the elections, and it is o.k. to ask for mechila after he realized that people may be hurt.

i really want to forgive and forget... BUT!
July 7, 2010 7:20 pm

its hard to forget that he already asked Mechilah right after the psak came out (as reported back then on Collive)
but then went on to smear and attack…

he used “asking Mechilah” to further his agenda, by making it look like he is the bigger man

so looking at his history, and looking at the fact that the Rabbonim election is in a month, its hard to believe that he wont do the same thing.
its hard not to thing that this is just the same ploy to get his Rov and his agenda elected!

time will tell…

Interesting
July 7, 2010 6:59 pm

#9 Cold water in today’s weather is not bad. Maybe a bit of a Tayvo, but so what? Why can’t you forgive, is it that hard? Are you one of the victims? Why don’t you identify yourself and spell it out? And are you a Navi who knows what will be in the future? #11 Please quote specifically what did he write that is a libel, or you should ask for Mechila. #13-&14 I feel sorry for you. You don’t know what’s in his heart and you are not G-d of whom it says האדם יראה לעינים וה’ יראה ללבב… Read more »

I dont see any asking for mchilah
July 7, 2010 5:54 pm

he’s just tooting his own horn and trying to take credit for the election.

This man will do anything for attention
July 7, 2010 5:52 pm

Fool me once….. you know the rest

Tv show
July 7, 2010 5:48 pm

His TV show was wonderful. Does he still produce it?

so let me get this straight...
July 7, 2010 5:48 pm

you’ll make up disgusting libels against somebody but now that the election is over you’ll come to their Simcha and eat their food. Great man!!!

Chaim
July 7, 2010 5:48 pm

In tune of what the rebbes says on this weeks parsha. That we learn from Aron Hakohen, Ohev Shalom, Verodeph Shalom.

What a load of trash
July 7, 2010 5:46 pm

I hate to pour cold water when a Yid is allegedly asking for Mchilah but PLEASE… You are not asking forgiveness all your doing is patting yourself on the back: “I made the elections happen” I got the young People involved” “the Children are our future……. blah blah blah….” Your primary objective was to destroy the New (now old) Vaad not to empower the youth – and you failed. Are we supposed to just forgive and forget all the hate and machloikes you created over the paste months and decade??? Are we supposed to just forgive and forget the little… Read more »

Don't know him
July 7, 2010 5:45 pm

I don’t even know him personally but these are the words of a mentch ….. Many can take a lesson from him

Yasher Koach
July 7, 2010 5:43 pm

Courageous from you. I’m not one of your admirers, but thank you for this courageous move.

resident
July 7, 2010 5:37 pm

hey katzman you apologised too early there is still the elections for rabonim will you be involved???????

the campaign is over and you won’t hear from me again.
July 7, 2010 5:37 pm

-if that true you are moichel.

on behalf of entire President street.

My opinion of him has gone up considerably.
July 7, 2010 5:36 pm
katzman is a winner
July 7, 2010 5:35 pm

thanks to your hard work we have 2 young new fresh real good people in the council who will better this community. so your hard work paid off and for that we need to respect you and say thank you!!

Yecheal ;)
July 7, 2010 5:32 pm

Yosi,
You are the greatest !!!!!

Thank you yossi for your work
July 7, 2010 5:28 pm

One favor please, your articles are very interesting ,however can you make them a bit shorter.
Thanks again

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