Jul 14, 2017
The Rebbe Isn't 'Propaganda Art'

From the COLlive inbox: I recently visited Crown Heights and saw the murals on the wall of the Rebbe's image. I really hope they stop.

By Rabbi Avremel Blesofsky - Scotch Plains, NJ

After one of the Rebbe's weekday farbrengens, I walked with my father out of 770 Eastern Parkway. The air was thick and humid. "Ess and Bench" had a line around the corner selling hotdogs.

Merchants had set up shop selling seforim and other miscellaneous stuff. One merchant caught my eye. He was selling wrist watches with the watch face personalized with a picture of the Rebbe.

"Tatty, can you buy me one?" I asked.

No, he answered.

My father went on to explain to me that having the Rebbe's face punctured with the clock dial and the moving hands going around was tasteless and disrespectful.

However, my father did buy a watch for me which was decorated with the logo of Tzivos Hashem, the organization that the Rebbe founded and which we were all proud to be a part of.

It taught me a life-long valuable lesson. The Rebbe, as well as a picture of the Rebbe, deserves dignity and respect.

I have recently been back to Crown Heights to discover colorful murals of the Rebbe painted on the walls of stores and buildings in the neighborhood. There's no doubt that the person who drew them is talented and means well.

This type of art may be suitable for political and cultural figures such as Martin Luther King Jr. and Che Guevara, but not for a Rebbe. The image of the Rebbe shouldn't be used as a fashion statement or propaganda art.

These murals are inappropriate, tasteless and disrespectful. I hope they stop.



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Opinions and Comments
1
I couldn't disagree more
These murals are using the Rebbe's image to spread good values. I love them.

And please don't equate MLK and terrorist murderer Che G.
(7/15/2017 2:53:22 PM)
2
Inappropriate
I think that's inappropriate to post your opinion on col .
If you really want to change the situation you should have contacted directly the artist, and talk to him.
I think it's not nice,and disrespectful for the one who like this type of art.
I hope that this type of articles will stop.
Shavoua tov
(7/15/2017 3:58:58 PM)
3
OVER SEAS
RABBI AVREMEL YOU ARE SO RIGHT
(7/15/2017 6:29:39 PM)
4
Yes
I couldn't agree more
(7/15/2017 6:34:59 PM)
5
I completely agree.
Thank you Rabbi Blesofsky for beautifully articulating this sentiment.
(7/15/2017 8:28:06 PM)
6
I agree
It makes me very uncomfortable to walk past these murals.
(7/15/2017 8:44:41 PM)
7
To # 2
Like yourself, everyone is titled to the opinion. I respect the fact the author did no shy away from posting his name. Unlike yourself.
(7/15/2017 9:02:10 PM)
8
Thank you
For saying what many are thinking.

You have a very true and valid point, which we can all learn from.

I was embarrassed to walk down Kingston when I saw them. It may be appropriate in an art museum, but not as graffiti on the streets. I really hope it gets taken down.
(7/15/2017 9:02:12 PM)
9
Life Long Crown Heightser
Rabbi Avremel,
I agree with you. The Rebbe's picture should not to be painted on street walls or used for commercial purposes. Very disrespectful indeed. Being a Am Hanivchar, we should not follow pop culture etc. It never leads to a good place. We are a nation of Rachmonim and Bayshonim. This doesn't suit our values of modesty
(7/15/2017 9:06:41 PM)
10
Thank you! I could not agree more with this article.
When I saw these paintings, the first thing I thought was we are 24 years after 3 Tammuz.
I don't think the artist had any bad intention, and I think he is pretty tallemtwd etc. I just think/feel that he/she was not brought up with proper hashkafah..
(7/15/2017 9:07:07 PM)
11
To #2
I have been living in this neighborhood for over 40 years. No one asked me my opinion if I think it's OK for the Rebbe's images to be painted on the walls -similar to lehavdil Bob Marley... I don't think the author is inappropriate for expressing his opinion.
(7/15/2017 9:15:21 PM)
12
Chani Your Cousin
Go Avremel, and thank you for saying what so many of us think, while posting your name and not shying behind some pseudonym. This just like the meme that went around with a picture of the Rebbe, and Donald Trump thanking him, are just so wrong. The saddest thing about this is that no one means ill. This is done because the feeling of what a Rebbe is is becoming more and more distant.. Oy Meh Hoya Lonu
(7/15/2017 9:19:30 PM)
13
Hafotzas Hamaayonos Chutzah
If we were able to ask the Rebbe his opinion on this, what do you think he would say? I'm pretty sure he'd say that so long as it's being done to advance his message, to which he was totally dedicated, he is mochel on his kovod, just as Hashem is mochel on His kovod to bring peace to a family.

In fact he'd probably compare your complaint to Reb Pinchos Koritzer's kepeida against the Mezritcher Maggid, and remind us of the Alter Rebbe's defense, with the moshol of the sick prince whose only cure was to grind up the most precious pearl and [i]hope[/i] that some of it could be forced into his mouth.
(7/15/2017 9:28:13 PM)
14
I dissagree
When ppl see these painting of the rebbe, you never know they might put on tefilin they might do an act of kindness
(7/15/2017 9:29:24 PM)
15
I agree
the sheva mitzvos i think are ok
but not the Rebbes picture
it is holy of holies
not a graffiti material
(7/15/2017 9:30:19 PM)
16
Stop judging and read
I am sorry but did even stop to read what it says???
It's not ment for u it's ment for the goyim not u not anyother Lubavitcher!
(7/15/2017 9:32:20 PM)
17
Agree
When I first saw them, I felt uncomfortable. I figured that whoever was doing it had good intentions so I kept my thoughts to myself.
I agree that the Rebbe's image and the things the Rebbe stood for should be publicized. I don't agree that this is the way to do it.
(7/15/2017 9:33:15 PM)
18
Posters with the Rebbe's photo
Another CH "custom" of disrespect, is the hanging of posters on lampposts and trees with the Rebbe's picture.
Upon hanging them, they are sure to get wet, fall on the floor, thrown into the garbage or stepped on.
This is planned disrespect.
I wish people would stop doing this.
(7/15/2017 9:44:33 PM)
19
Think good
The Rebbe encouraged people to use their talents to serve Hashem. This artist is talented and boruch Hashem used the talents blessed with to make a picture of the Rebbe .
From inner.org: "The Lelover Rebbe explained that looking at the Lubavitcher Rebbes picture instills fear of Heaven. If someone does not take the time to look at the pictures of tzadikim, especially the picture of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, his fear of Heaven will certainly be missing something." We need fear of Heaven on the streets. Perhaps looking at these paintings will increase someone's yiras Shomoyim.
(7/15/2017 9:50:14 PM)
20
Thank you
In our community there are also murals such as these and it bothered me but I couldn't quite pinpoint why. How lucky you are to have a father who imparted such lessons and clarity.
(7/15/2017 9:59:08 PM)
21
Finally
Thank you so much for speaking out, I saw it myself and got sick to my stomach. Blessings !
(7/15/2017 10:11:16 PM)
22
a pity on all those who feel this is sick
when l go out l try hard to get people to take the 7 laws of noach, l cannot even begin to tell you how many stick there noses in the air, g-d bless this man to do something about it, it would be even better if we put up bulltins all over the city in all languages, so that people will reflect on the fear of heaven, you do not know what can be done unless you try and yes the face of the rebbe does matter, when people see a man with a kind look, so there you have it, how many of you try to affects all the non -jews in our community, l beta ya not to many, so start now, are you afraid? then what this man does is holy, make no mistake about it.imm geula, that's the main thing
(7/15/2017 10:33:59 PM)
23
Che Guevara?!
"This type of art may be suitable for political and cultural figures such as Martin Luther King Jr. and Che Guevara, but not for a Rebbe. "

You detract from your point with such a remark. This type of art is definitely NOT suitable for the image of a rosho such as Che Guevara yimach shemo. Guevara was nothing but a vicious bloodthirsty murderer, a common street thug, and it is never appropriate to defile the streets with his image, or to lionize him as if he stood for some worthwhile ideal. His picture is no different from that of Hilter or Arafat yimach shemom.
(7/15/2017 10:34:48 PM)
24
I love it
To see the Rebbe in front of my eyes really inspires me.
Beautiful artwork
Thanks
(7/15/2017 10:37:33 PM)
25
OFF THE MARK!!!
the watchmaker was trying to profit off the rebbes icon - here you have a idealistic person trying to spread a message the rebbe so strongly promoted = SHEVA MITZVOS

it is no different the the posters all around toronto or erertz yisroel which was endorsed by all the shluchim

the reason for the picture is it makes it more eye catching and powerful especially for artists !

not just should the artist not be rebuked he should be commended !!

if the rebbes face was graffiti with some other iconic faces i would totally agree with you BUT TO NOT HAVE THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS ARTIST AND THE WATCHMAKER IS CONFUSING IDEALISM WITH GREED AND SELFLESS AND SELFISH

YOUR comparison and hastily public condemnation WAS DISTASTEFUL AND INSENSITIVE ! you should apologize !
(7/15/2017 10:42:40 PM)
26
To 13
The Hafotzas Hayahadus Vehamayonois is FOR The Rebbe, And NOT Chas Vesholom That The Rebbe is For Hafotzas Hayahadus Vehamayonois.
(7/15/2017 10:45:36 PM)
27
Sorry
I actually thought it was lovely and I enjoyed seeing the Rebbe's holy face as I was walking down Kingston. I saw nothing wrong.
(7/15/2017 10:57:13 PM)
28
To #13
Irregardless of this machloches, but you should be aware that the Rebbe is Melech Hamoshiach as he made perfectly clear. Please study the Rambam's Laws of Kings and their Wars and you will understand that halachically a Jewish King cannot be "mochel on his kovod" no matter how humble he is.
(7/15/2017 10:57:15 PM)
29
Segal
I wish someone would proofread the text on the mural so that we don't become laughingstocks in the eyes of the educated yuppies in our neighborhood.
(7/15/2017 11:03:47 PM)
30
Er.. I dunno
I hear you, and the watches were definitely inappropriate, but I have a hard time getting mad at the Sheva Mitzhvos mural...
(7/15/2017 11:07:23 PM)
31
Murals
On Lag B'omer, the 12 pesukim are displayed outside the walls of 770
If pesukim can be displayed, then certainly pictures of the Rebbe can be. Or do you have more respect for the Rebbe's picture than pesukim from the Torah?
(7/15/2017 11:12:04 PM)
32
To 25
I felt the same exact way as the author did regardless of the story of the watch.

And just because the watchmaker they have been greedy that does not make this picture appropriate.

This picture could simply be pretrade in a much more professional nice way not with graffiti - graffiti or painting on walls is meant for a rockstar
(7/15/2017 11:21:45 PM)
33
Thank you!
If you would like donate to this cause and help spread the 7 mitzvos benei noach:
Please send your payments through paypal : zreyli@hotmail.com
Thank you!
(7/15/2017 11:25:41 PM)
34
Moshe HALEVI Sani
BSD

Shavua Tov U'M'vorach;

Baruch HaShem Yisbarech, I can say that Im BLESSED to have such a TALENTED artist cousin whose artist name is: Zreyli (aka: Rabbi Michoel Israily), ShYichyeh!!!

Keep up your BEAUTIFUL Shlichus & make us, ALL, Proud!!!

But, then, I THOUGHT: "I'll just have to add one more-thing, BECAUSE, here's a PURE and BEAUTIFUL project and INSTEAD of showing support and LOVE, here's repeated Hatred and un-kind people mouthing-off and I'm a Levi and I can ALSO show my mouth!", SO...



PS:

How come, no-one comes out, SCREAMING when Yechi-ists post stuff all over the city with messages like:

"Rebbé's ALIVE and he's Moshiach and he's here to redeem us"

or

"Rebbè's ALIVE and Galus is over"


or

when Yashke freak students come to visit Crown Heights and B'Hashgachah P'ratis, they're greeted by Yechi-ists in 770 or other places and they talk about the Rebbé like L'Havdil Elef Havdalos, these Yashkeh-freaks are used-to hearing about their false-prophet and resonates with them who go back to their towns and say: "Look! The Yidden, ALSO: have A 'notion' like Yashkeh coming back from the dead"


So, no-one screams AGAINST that BECAUSE, we're SCARED to mess with the Yechi-ists!



A side-track message to Y'chi-ist: Before you come attacking, I USED to be one of you Yechi-ists and Bizchus Avos, I met the Rebbé and was Zocheh to get a REAL dollar from the Rebbé's holy hands, DIRECTLY in the LAST Yom Rishon the Rebbé, HIMSELF gave out dollars in the LAST hours!

(If you don't believe me, look it up on My Moments with the Rebbé)


Also, I know the head of your organization (HaKohen, Sh'Yichyeh)! He's my Rav's cousin, I know his father, Sh'Yichyeh and I knew his Zeidi, ZTZ"L from Montréal!!!

Where were you when the Rebbé talked about other Mivtzaim other than SCREAMING about the Rebbé being Moshiach???!!!


Anyways, so, before you go SCREAMING about what the Rebbé wants, start following what the Rebbé's Sichos, Maarim, Horaos, etc...



Here's my cousin, someone who comes and says: "Look, Hashem gave the Sheva Mitzvos to Noach to publicize and after a few generations, it got forgotten until Avraham Avinu & the Avos and again, got forgotten until Moshe Rabbeinu whom Hashem commanded to publicize it again and pass it down to Y'hoshua....UNTIL, The Rebbé of the generation is like Moshe Rabbeinu for our generation, so, the Rebbé made as part of his Mitzvos campaigns (Mivtzaim), Mivtzah Sheva Mitzvos Noach and it's up to us to publicize it and this is how I know to do it with the gift of talent Hashem has given me"!

Here's a BEAUTIFUL project which he has taken upon himself WITHOUT, ANY financial backing from ANYONE, AITH Permission from people whom he paints it on their properties and he does it as a BEAUTIFUL and PURE notion of LOVE to BRIGHTEN people's days when they walk by his murals!

BUT, other JEALOUS people who are talent-LESS or their ONLY talent is to run their mouths off, come and SCREAM: Rebbé is not this and is not that! Or the Rebbé didn't say this and the Rebbé didn't say that!!!


Go and read Rebbé's Sichos and other public talks and see how the Rebbé made it the TAFKID of OUR generation and left it up to US to CONTINUE the job & to take over, after he left this physical world!


If you haven't learnt Rebbé's Sichos, at-least, open the Chumash!!!



Stop HATING and CREATING Machlokes!


You chose to mess with my cousin who's HUMBLE and doesn't want to fight, is a SUBSCRIBER of peace no-matter what and doing things as peacefully as he can, being even, Ohev Es HaB'riyos, BUT, you run your mouth off at a BEAUTIFUL and PURE notion of LOVE with so-much HATE and TRYING to stir up trouble, you NEED a Levi whom with ASKING M'chilah from the Kohen, for being RUDE and INSULTING, WILL stand up for his cousin!!!

The Blesofskys, Sh'Yichyu whom I know, are Kohanim, they're KIND, LOVING, PEACEFUL, CARING, non-judgmental, so, haven't you been reading the Chumash, EITHER in the pst few Parshiyos of Aharon HaKohen (your great-great-great-....grand-father) spreading LOVE, PEACE, no-judgement, EVEN "Ohev Es HaB'riyos"???!!!


Or do you, like me, ONLY know that we come from Levi whom BESIDES for ALL of his Maalos, had ONE Chisaron which he had HOT temper whom he left it as a Y'rushah to his descendants???!!!!

The key is to use it for glGOOD and to stand-up for what's JUST and what's RIGHT as well as to choose your battles WISELY!!!


Being a Zealot like Pinchas HaKohen (who became a Kohen SINCE he stood up for Hashem) doesn't mean to lash out & run your mouth off at ANYTHING & EVERYTHING you see that you don't agree with, BUT, to show RESTRAINT, ask your Rav like this week's Pirkei Avos says: "Aseh L'cha Rav", Pinchas went to his Rav, Moshe Rabbeinu who taught him which things you SHOULD go & wage war and which things you should 'cool your engines' and which you should go & join in & assist!!!

Pinchas didn't pick up a Spear & go to kill, rather, he asked his Rav for advice!!!


What does YOUR Rav say about this!!!


Did you consult YOUR Rav before picking up YOUR Spear???!!!


Did he give YOU "the green-light" to wage a battle AGAINST such a pure and holy project???!!!!


Did he tell YOU: "Go-ahead! It's a battle Hashem wants YOU to fight and if you DON'T, no-one-else is their Tafkid"???!!!



You can ask your uncle, Rabbi Y'hudah HaKohen or your cousin, Rabbi Hillel Hakohen, Sh'Yichyu for my contact info, IF you are inclined to discuss this in person to enlighten me WHY you BELIEVE that this IS the RIGHT thing to do and it's YOURS and YOURS-ONLY to fight this battle!!!


Or if you like, I can, even, set up a meeting and to put you in touch with the artist, himself, jn-person, so you can bring your point & he'll being his point and PEACEFULLY, discuss it, in-person!


This is NOT the RIGHT place for this!!!



This is a place for NEWS and NOT: Propaganda, gathering an ARMY like Korach & spreading HATRED!!!


OK?


(7/16/2017 12:23:41 AM)
35
Tanya
So shouldn't Tanya be painted on the ceiling of a pizza shop
(7/16/2017 1:02:54 AM)
36
ALFRED E NEWMAN
JUST THE OPPOSITE

THESE MURALS SHOW THE ENORMOUS INFLUENCE THE REBBE HAS ON THE WORLD.

(7/16/2017 1:21:45 AM)
37
I agree
I don't think it gives proper to the Rebbe to be painted on the wall. But the idea of spreading teachings are great. Just lose the picture.
(7/16/2017 1:25:38 AM)
38
To 34
The Fact that others behave crazy and disgraceful and disrespectful, Does Not Make You and Your Cousin Right!!!! Has Your Cousin Asked the opinions of: Rabbi Groner, Rabbi Krinsky, Rabbi Yoel Kahan, Rabbi Osdoba, Rabbi Schwei, Rabbi Braun, ?????!!!!! Which Responsible Person Behaves This Way?????!!!!!
(7/16/2017 1:32:33 AM)
39
Note
As a supporter of the artist it should be noted. This is done WITH permission of the property owners and it has been a result of similar successful murals in Montreal for years. I would rather see a picture of the Rebbe on the wall than the pritzus on the street
(7/16/2017 1:34:33 AM)
40

Do you think it's respectful to show the Rebbe in Times Square?! The Shluchim are the Rebbe ( ) and they go to crazy places ( ). We are all connected to the Rebbe and in everything we do we bring the Rebbe with us.
It's possible that us Lubavitcher's might not like it but if this publicizes the message of the Rebbe and can bring even one Yid closer to Hashem and make this world a better place, it's worth it.
I'm sure to save a physical life you agree the picture would be worth it. How much more so a spiritual life!

P.S. Its true that a king can't be Mochel on his Kavod. however, If a king commands us to save a life even if in doing so the king would be in a place of embarrassment, there would be no denegration to be Mochel. It's the kings wish!
(7/16/2017 1:49:22 AM)
41
Not so black and white
My first instinct is to say I agree however the rebbes picture has been used for years.
Back in 1992 when it said "welcome moshiach" and till today.
It used to bother me that driving down the highway in israel you see a pictures of the rebbe all over till I meet with someone who knew zero about yidishkeit so I pulled out of my wallet a picture of the Rebbe assuming he would know who it is and then he tells me "idk who that is but it rings a bell. I recognize that picture from the posters all over israels highways".
Since this incident I'm not so sure anymore that its not ok because the Rebbe finds a way to reach every Jew!
Moshiach now!!
(7/16/2017 1:55:56 AM)
42
To 25
BTW the rebbe asked not be posted like that or even printed !
And allot more then once
(7/16/2017 3:12:13 AM)
43
To 34
Dear 34 ,
Kol akavod!! You are totally right. I hope the author will understand the mistake that he did by posting this article.
(7/16/2017 4:15:27 AM)
44
I haven't seen this in person and pictures can be deceiving
But I think it's beautiful and it makes me smile and warm inside to see a beautiful depiction of our holy and loving REBBE!

I hope everyone who sees it feels the radiance and light that can be seen even from just a picture of the Rebbe.

Ps I generally agree that propagating the Rebbe's photo on every photo and paraphernalia is tasteless and undignified
(7/16/2017 5:11:09 AM)
45
I like it
The first time I saw a picture of the rebbe was in the early 90's (when I was a young teenager), in a subway. It was a photograph accompanied by rosh hashana greetings. Is that dignified? To put a holy rebbe picture in the klipah-dik
subway? BUT it made a lasting impression on me and I eventually became frum. I never saw an image of the rebbe, or even KNEW about him before that subway picture. Like a painting, a photograph is an art form. I think this mural is bringing the rebbe to the masses, spreading the sheva mitzvos, in a creative and innovative manner. Does the rebbe belong in the subway? Does he belong in the streets? The rebbe's message is needed everywhere!! I think these street murals are doing a great job. UFARATZTA!
(7/16/2017 7:48:49 AM)
46
Moshe HALEVI Sani
We need to parse the issues.

Displaying and spreading the 7 mitzvos is clearly a very good thing!

The artist work is brilliant and beautiful. It should definitely be out there.

The question is; is it appropriate to display the Rebbe's picture that way? Many us of us think it's inappropriate.

Addressing something in the public domain is not machlokes. If the artist was contacted privately and stopped incorporating the Rebbe's picture in his Murals, the issue would still remain. Another artist could come up with a similar painting. This is not about the artist, this is about appropriate use of the Rebbe's picture.

Were the rabbanim of CH consulted with? Do they agree with this use of the Rebbe's picture!


(7/16/2017 7:56:15 AM)
47
To # 31
You are correct. ON the walls of 770....
HOWEVER!!!
The paintings being put up in CH are on walls where garbage gets put up against.
Let's not get into the fact that dogs walk by & do thee thing against these walls.
(7/16/2017 8:12:51 AM)
48
To #27
So must also have a big ugly yellow flag on you porch and have 3 shredded bumper stickers on your car with the rebbe a picture on it. Faded from the sun torn etc.

Very respectful to the rebbe. Don't you see the ugly mess of this? If it were your grandfather on the car would you like to see it?
(7/16/2017 9:19:05 AM)
49
I am also...
Very uncomfortable with this. 34: I'm confused why you're bringing mishichists into the picture? Of course there are lots of things that lubavitchers do that could be condemned, but what does that have to do with the issue at hand?

No one is trying to purposely display hate. Quite the contrary, the writer is standing up with an opinion that only displays his love for the Rebbe.

On a side note, the reoccurring theme of the concept of Leviim having the go ahead to display their mouth skills and become angry is completely inaccurate. No Jew should become angry or could justify their anger based on their ancestry, and very holy and righteous ancestry mind you.

To the writer of the article, I STRONGLY disagree with your use of language at the end of the article: that these murals are "inappropriate, tasteless and disrespectful".... only a few lines after you get over saying that the artist surely didn't have negative intentions. Those words are strong words, especially for who we assume to be: a well meaning, innocent person who is trying to do the right thing. Please reconsider your strong choice of wording (no matter how "effective" harsh words can be at bringing a point across) in the future. Embarrassing a yid is worse then picture of the Rebbe on the wall and I don't think this can be debated.
(7/16/2017 9:39:54 AM)
50
SOOOO DESRESPECTFUL
i agree 100% its very disrespectful to do that
(7/16/2017 9:49:25 AM)
51
ch resident
this kind of paintings on the street walls is 100% wrong. can you see elder chassidim or from previous generations condoning this? it is obviously done by a newcomer to us lubavitchers to show that he is holier than .......
Where are our rabbonim to put a stop to this? where anyone and everyone can do as they please. this embarrasses me and what we stand for. let him use his talents where appropriate and leave us alone. go back where you came from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(7/16/2017 10:07:20 AM)
52
Hear you all!
Sacrilegious! And yes #35!!!
However, each is entitled to his own opinion & all are inspired differently!
(7/16/2017 10:17:50 AM)
53
wonderful!!!!
very inspiring!
Thank you for spreading a beautiful message.
This makes the world a better , G-Dly world!
(7/16/2017 10:46:11 AM)
54
TO 34
Your cousin wouldn't have DARED make this mural before Gimmel Tammuz. Period.

Nothing more to say on this. Wait...

Are you telling me that the Rebbe's face belongs as street art?!!!?? You gotta be kidding me. You gotta be kidding yourself. Not what the Rebbe wants from the shechuna for sure.
(7/16/2017 10:58:11 AM)
55
I love this artist's work and inspiring message
I am so happy that this artist chose to spread such a positive message. I'm sure that if you would ask the Rebbe, he would love to be associated with it. It is done in good taste, is respectful, and yet a strong message to the point shared in a way that is accessible to all. Kudos and keep up the great work.
(7/16/2017 10:58:15 AM)
56
#26 avoda zara
"The Hafotzas Hayahadus Vehamayonois is FOR The Rebbe, And NOT Chas Vesholom That The Rebbe is For Hafotzas Hayahadus Vehamayonois. "

You are making the Rebbe into an avoda zara, r"l. The inyan is hafotzas hamaayonos. Without that what do we need a rebbe for? A tzadik is atzmus umehus of the Eibershter BECAUSE he is botel bimtzius to the Eibershter, not ch"v the other way around.
(7/16/2017 11:44:19 AM)
57
Moshe
It reminds me of the joke with the picture of a Rabbi in a restaurant. " If the rabbi was here and the picture was you on the wall, I would trust the hashgacha". When people on the street would talk about the Rebbe, then we can talk about direspect. When the people on the street are half dressed, then we need all the kedusha on the street possible.

The Rebbe spoke about Sheva mitzvos a million times. No one have a darn. Suddenly it hits the walls, and people care......
(7/16/2017 12:02:47 PM)
58
To all who think this is ok
Are there any limits? Or one can be as disrespectful as he wishes because it's spreading Torah?
There is no point to deliberately throw Chassidisher in the mud and then blame it on th alter rebbes mashal
(7/16/2017 12:24:33 PM)
59
To #34
There doesn't seem to be garbage near the painting and it seems too high for dogs. Maybe there picture should have been a little higher. The garbage on streets is a chilul Hashem but that's a different issue.
(7/16/2017 12:28:05 PM)
60

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(7/16/2017 1:41:03 PM)
61
I dont understand, and to # 38
Do all the mosdos, that put the rebbes picture on thier flyer and hang them up all over town , where 90 percent of the time it will be thrown out, do they ask the rabanim?

Here its a painting on the wall, and will not get thrown out.

For years people have been painting rebbe pictures in all different styles and to each his own. I honestly dont see a problem. Do be honest, it is not my style, but I dont see a problem.

Also take a look at comment #45.
(7/16/2017 2:03:52 PM)
62
Amazing work ! Continue what your doing!
Amazing work !
Kol hakavod!
With ufaratza u need to come up with new ways of doing things .
And I am sure this was done with permission and advice from a few rabbis of Montreal as the artists are respectable people.
This mural was done to spread sheva mitzvos benei noach it's for all the goyim out there and all the yuppies.
The rebbe picture would be perfect for the crown heights comunity where your moral is going down maybe the rebbes picture will instill some yiras shamayim and people will dress more tzniusly!!
(7/16/2017 2:19:41 PM)
63
Moshe HaLevi Sani
People, Baruch Hashem Yisbarech, I have my own mouth!

Please do NOT speak for me and/or be a copy-cat!

I, ONLY, wrote comment 34!

(7/16/2017 2:48:57 PM)
64
Better Action Than Critism
B"H
Hashgocho protis, I just learned from a sicha how it's better to be the one taking action, like Pinchos, than to be the one criticizing...
(7/16/2017 3:59:40 PM)
65
to the one who came up witht his idea and implemented it:
lchaim vlivracha! i am 100 percent lubavitch and actually frum nonetheless and i think this is excellent!
Moshiach now!
(and if i wasnt single i would sign my name! :)
(7/16/2017 4:06:45 PM)
66
I agree 100% with the author.
Graffiti, even if it looks pretty, even if it has a positive message, is still lowly street art. It is disgraceful to stoop so low and use this medium for painting the Rebbe in alleyways. Yes the artist has talent, he should get some canvas and paint to his heart's content in a respectful way.
We are not goyim, and our Rebbe always told us to bring people to the Torah and not cv"s to drag the Torah down to the masses.
Let's be proud to be soldiers in the army of Hashem so the nations will look up to us, and not the other way around. MZ

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(7/16/2017 4:08:49 PM)
67
Not right
I am sure that the artist and the owner did not have bad intentions and truly meant well by neither the less this is the Rebbe and it is not appropriate and there needs to be some boundaries and respect.The Rebbe picture is not some some cute cartoon or logo . So people don't back this up it's not right
(7/16/2017 4:31:32 PM)
68
I like what # 62 said,
I'm not sure what the Rebbe would say about this, but I think if young Yidden passing the Rebbe murals, possibly dressing or acting immodestly, are confronted with his face and holy words it might have an effect. And for that it's worth it, even to save just a few neshamas, and generally I'm not a building mural fan. Some of the vitriol being posted is from a not good place. I do believe the artist's intentions are pure. It's not my style, but the world is upside down, and the Rebbe said you should use the kelim of tikun with the power of kelim of tohu to bring Moshiach if necessary. The time has come.Do whatever you can to bring Moshiach Now!
(7/16/2017 4:50:25 PM)
69
Not nice
it is highly disgusting of you Mr. avremel to post such a article, the artist is a very understanding man, and you can go ahead and confront him, there is absolutely no reason for you to go ahead and badmouth him like this, especially that his entire intent is in order to spared the desire of hashem, let us see what you are doing to spread these messages.
(7/16/2017 5:07:30 PM)
70
Response: What does the Rebbe himself say about this?
1. At the First siyum harambam, after the rebbe initiated the campaign to study rambam, 11 nissan 84(date?)the rebbe spoke at length about making a stamp with the picture of the rambam. (Quoting all the reasons not to do it and refuting them one by one) ultimately saying that doing so would surely spread awareness of the authors position of sheva mitzvois.

2. The Rebbe told rabbi krinsky that he agreed to have His picture printed in the NY Times... (but it should be a picture with a smile)

3. The Rebbe told certain people to look at a pic of the frierdike Rebbe and that will help them deal with machshovos zoros. My encounter JEM. Somone from montreal.

If anyone has the time to type this up with quoting the proper sources you have permission to post this response plus more in your own name...

Thank you rabbi Blesofsky
Lots of Love
Chaim Teleshevsky
Chabad north of montana
Rabbichaim@chabad.com
(7/16/2017 6:44:23 PM)
71
To 56
Machrisayich Umachrivayich Mimeich Yeitzeiuh!!! To use the Rebbe's A Sicho To Be Loicheim Against The Rebbe And Against The Oibershter???!!! As You Alone Dictated From The Sicho that The Rebbe is Atzmus Umehus Melubosh Beguf Gashmi - is The Oibershter FOR Hafotzas Hayahadus Vehamayonois - Or The Total Opposite - That Hafotzas Hayahadus Vehamayonois is FOR The oibershter???!!! Rebbe is A Roshei Teivois "Roish Benei Yisroel" So Who is for Who: The Head For The Feet - Or The Feet Are For The Head???!!! It's A Big Rachmones on you For Using R"L such an Expression on The rebbe - No Matter what Your Kavono was... How Low Can People Fall Down For A Couple of Dollars And For their own Gaive Yeshus And metzius!!! Who Would Ever Imagine that???!!!...
(7/16/2017 7:09:28 PM)
72
The wall looks nicer than this check it out:)
These pictures are outdated!
(7/16/2017 8:04:33 PM)
73
MOSES
TANYA CH. 6
"THE ALMIGHTY HAS CREATED ONE THING OPPOSITE THE OTHER" THERE ARE HOLY POSTERS THAT PROMOTE 7 MITZVOS & GOODNESS AND THERE ARE UNHOLY POSTERS THAT PROMOTE SHTUS. HAVE WE LOST THE ABILITY TO DISTINGUISH ONE FROM THE OTHER???
(7/16/2017 11:58:19 PM)
74
Agree
The artist is incredibly talented, however a Rebbe is a Rebbe. Paintings on outside walls is not bekovedik.
(7/17/2017 8:59:40 AM)
75
"Tasteless and Disrespectful"
When my 5 year old grandchild gets some food that he doesnt like, he was taught by his parents, that instead of saying the hot dog is "gross", he says the hotdog is "not my taste"

Lots of things in life are subjective, Many things have more than one way to look at it, and it totally depends on your point of view

If you are "irked' at the Rebbe's portrait appearing on the brick wall, it just means that it doesnt sit well with "you"
It doesnt meant that it is wrong per say.

a more "respectful and tastefull" way to say that is that "it is not my taste"

When I see the mural, this is what I see:
Here is an artist that is sacrificing his time effort and money
to publicize a inyan that the Rebbe asked us to promote,
The " Sheva Mitzvos Bnai Noach"

It is the least worked on Mivtza!
Perhaps instead of getting caught up on "whether or not the stamp is upside down", why do we need to"shoot the messenger"?

I would end off in saying that the article is "Tasteless and Disrespectful",

But I wont!

It is just "not my taste"

Moishe Leib

PS To the artist,
Thank you for putting in so much effort to make us hear the
Rebbes message

In Montreal we now have a huge Billboard with a picture of the Rebbe urging people to put on Tefillin

(7/17/2017 8:25:02 PM)
76
Kol Hakovod!
As a dear and close friend and admirer of the family of the artist,
I can clearly and unequivocally vouch for the pure intentions
of the artist and his amazing art, which is truly l'shem shomayim
Granted, not everyone has the same taste in art and its appreciation and critique,
but I just want to clarify this point, once and for all:
The Rebbe, our father, would definitely want us to live and let live.

He is in fact, a phenomenal artist, and his artwork and devotion to the cause of spreading the "7 Noahide Laws" is to be applauded and valued as such.

(7/17/2017 9:34:01 PM)
77
Rebbe clock
Please judge for yourself if you agree with the premise of this article
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/483151866253913513/

is this clock with the Rebbe "Tasteless and Disrespectful"?

It is perhaps "not my taste" but is beautiful, never-the-less

Moishe Leib

(7/17/2017 10:28:49 PM)
78
It is precisely this, that can catch the attention
and possibly interest of goyim and even lost & confused Yidden! This is their medium!
(7/18/2017 11:17:36 PM)
79
Food for thought...
If you were to look at early pictures of the Rebbe from his first years of leadership, you will see that he would shy away from the camera and hide his face, not wanting to be photographed. Eventually he allowed himself to be photographed by weddings under the chuppa whilst being mesader kedushin for the benefit of the bride and groom, but he only allowed a few pictures, not more than necessary. Later on, the Rebbe gave up his personal wishes for the benefit of others so that people like myself, who are born after Gimmel Tammuz, can connect to Him, through videos and pictures.
I have grown up in a home where Rebbe pictures are not thrown around. I don't know about all of you, but we never throw Rebbe pictures in the garbage, how much more so, it is extremely disrespectful to hang up signs and pictures of the Rebbe (regardless of the caption) where they are certainly going to fall down and be trodden on, damaged in the rain, or disrespected in any way. Why then would it be considered respectful to paint a mural of the Rebbe? (Especially as it is an 'artist's impression' not an actual photograph of the Rebbe). The mural will wash away after a decade, it might be grafitied on, spat on, ruined from the weather, etc.
If one is saying that the artist is using his Kochos for positive, let him paint a picture of the Rebbe on a canvas and hang it up in his dining room.
And I agree with #35. Tanya on the ceiling of a restaurant is extremely disrespectful and disgraceful. The sefer with which we will greet Moshiach is someone's wallpaper. Why do you think this is any better than when lehavdil eleh havdalos, goyim would hang pieces of a sefer torah on their wall?
(7/19/2017 7:17:22 AM)
80
I'm not really sure about this but,
it is an exceptionally beautiful, dignified and respectful portrait of our Rebbe, in my opinion, not to mention it's being accompanied with the appropriate Sheva Mitzvahs B'nai Noach.
(7/19/2017 8:42:47 AM)
81
To # 79
When I was in Gan Yisroel around 40+ years ago there were color war posters with the drawing of the Rebbe on it.
If I am not mistaking, they were drawn by Rav Schwei.
I am sure that they are wrecked from the weather and are no where as respectable as they were when they were originally painted

In CH we see sichos and pictures of the Rebbe on the streets.

Many many of the mivtzayim brochures end up either on the street or in the garbage

Why dont we stop printing them?
They will be " be trodden on, damaged in the rain, or disrespected in any way!"

As a Lubavitcher, I think this is a weak argument!
(7/19/2017 6:47:47 PM)
82
to the one who started this
you obviously were a deprived child your father was wrong but you continue this deprivation ,
dont deprive others especialy goyim from knowing the truth that the Rebbe is alive and he is the Moses of the generationand
everyone must know
(7/23/2017 1:21:40 PM)
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