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Shluchim ‘Purchase’ Eruv Rights

At a meeting with Brooklyn's new Borough President Eric Adams, Shluchim halachically purchased the rights to keep an eruv. Full Story

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to #18
February 2, 2014 9:17 am

I am always amused by this. If the fathers could come home from shul or daven earlier instead of staying to farbreng all shabbos day the mothers could go out to a later minyan, or shabbos afternoon… there is no halocho the father can’t stay home and watch the kids a bit!!

#18
February 2, 2014 2:03 am

Mothers are NOT shut in with their children. They have a perfectly natural hour bonding experience. Shabbos is beautiful. I feel so sorry for you if you have to *escape* from the oasis of your mikdash me’at.

To #16
February 1, 2014 8:57 pm

say look at Crown heights between Eastern Parkway Empire Blvd & the Avenues can you or anyone seriously think that there are lees then 600,000 people that pass thru these portions of the CH? Absolutely. It’s more like 60,000. Even on the busiest day of the year, Eastern Parkway does not come close to 600,000. In any case, the Rebbe’s opinion has nothing to do with how many people there are. The Rebbe was for an eruv even in Manhattan, let alone Brooklyn; but he wanted it kept secret. The Rebbe did not agree with R Moshe Feinstein’s shitah. Even… Read more »

to # 22
January 31, 2014 1:26 pm

intent to carry on Shabbos, and one unwittingly does not carry, is not the sin of carrying on Shabbos

A secret eiruv
January 30, 2014 11:08 pm

Wouldn’t it still be counted as a sin if the intent of a person is to sin?

#10
January 30, 2014 10:00 pm

Just to clarify.

Someone wrote the Rebbe that he wanted to make an Eiruv in order to ‘save’ those that aare already carying on Shabbos.

The Rebbe told him, that if this was indeed his motive, his eiruv can be made in secret. In that letter, the Rebbe wasn’t stating that Eiruvin should be made all over ‘in secret’

Fom Los Angeles
January 30, 2014 9:29 pm

Yes there is an Erev, and sometimes the Erev is down…but one particular time, when the erev was down, I met several people in the street pushing strollers……either they didn’t know that the erev was down, or they had already made plans and counted on the Erev,and at that point didn’t care….

And what about Alternate side of the street
January 30, 2014 9:24 pm

Parking every day on Eastern Parkway including Shabbos…..
If The Community council wont do something about this Now,
They obviously only do things that fill their own pockets…..

women and children
January 30, 2014 9:19 pm

an eruv in CH should be considered to better support women with young children. mothers are basically shut in with children an entire shabbos. some lucky people have parents or in-laws in the neighborhood and move in for shabbos, but those who are from out of town or want to be at home are basically home indoors and alone an entire shabbos.

Normal
January 30, 2014 9:17 pm

Just because every Community has an Eruv doesnt make it right… Chabad has no more Boundaries…..What the heck does it mean times have changed…Who are you kidding?

you should be ashamed etc.
January 30, 2014 7:12 pm

How can one have the Chutzpah to say The Rebbe’s opinion etc. is outdated? For on e thing let’s look at the basic definitions of A Reshuis Harabim according to the Gemara the definition is 600,000 people. I say look at Crown heights between Eastern Parkway Empire Blvd & the Avenues can you or anyone seriously think that there are lees then 600,000 people that pass thru these portions of the CH? I don’t think so. How they did it in B/p Williamsburg I am not familiar with & am not a Rav But what i am sure of is… Read more »

#13
January 30, 2014 7:06 pm

Why not?

to number 1
January 30, 2014 4:40 pm

IF the Rebbe’s opinion isnt relevant to you WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU IN CROWN HEIGHTS?! Youre entitled to your eiruv, but not in the Rebbe’s neighbourhood! I’m surprised that the editors let this through (i’m sure it was an oversight, the right thing to do would be to take the comment down — this site does so much good, it shouldnt be a polatform for people to plant seeds in the next generation that the rebbe’s opinion is no longer relevant because “times have changed”

To number 1.
January 30, 2014 3:23 pm

Can you please clarify:

Do you mean that if the Rebbe was here he would have changed his mind and allowed it now because of changed circumstances?

Vote
January 30, 2014 3:03 pm

I vote for an eruv in CH. You don’t want to use it? Dont use it!

Borough President?
January 30, 2014 2:52 pm

What is the basis of sechiras reshus from the Borough President? In what sense is he an owner? What rights does he have over the streets? Surely the streets are the property of the New York City, not of the borough. And what about the houses? Not even the city owns them, or has the right to enter them. It seems to me that the best people to rent reshus from would be Con Ed, since they have a meter in every house.

The Rebbe's position on eruvin in big cities
January 30, 2014 2:49 pm

Was expressed in a letter to R Menachem Kasher in the 1950s. It was that they should make an eruv but not tell anyone about it, so that people will not get used to using it, but in case anyone did carry they would be saved from an aveira. The reason the Rebbe gave was that people would get used to carrying, and since it’s inevitable that one day the eruv will be down, people will not hear about it and will carry. The fact is times have changed. Nearly every major Jewish community today has an eruv, so people… Read more »

your son
January 30, 2014 2:08 pm

go rabbi raskin

Comment Number 1
January 30, 2014 1:49 pm

Don’t be a coward. State your name. If you feel that the Rebbe’s opinion is no longer valid, and are not ashamed to write it on a public forum, don’t be ashamed to say who you are.

With a name you’ll be able to take your campaign public and deal with the issue properly.

eiruv
January 30, 2014 12:31 pm

I once saw a answer that Rabbi Y.D. Groner a”h got from the Rebbe regarding helping make an Eiruv in Melbourne. If someone can post it, it may be helpful. Thanks.you write: “I understand the rebbe was not in favor of having a eruv but times have changed”. realty??? is this how we should live our lives? all the things the Rebbe spoke about (and for that matter many halochos also) were for times gone by. but now we live in the 21st century? is this the new way? you continue: an eruv will help those people who may carry… Read more »

to # 1
January 30, 2014 12:29 pm

you write: “I understand the rebbe was not in favor of having a eruv but times have changed”. realty??? is this how we should live our lives? all the things the Rebbe spoke about (and for that matter many halochos also) were for times gone by. but now we live in the 21st century? is this the new way? you continue: an eruv will help those people who may carry on Shabbos to not carry on shabbos.” the Rebbe addressed this specific issue clearly. i don’t know what the Rebbe’s exact position is on an Eiruv. I’m just commenting on… Read more »

Wonderful Work
January 30, 2014 12:06 pm

Keep it up.

where?
January 30, 2014 12:02 pm

what are the parameters of this eruv?

ancording to the fienstein family
January 30, 2014 11:44 am

The rebbe was against making an eruv in all five boroughs

Reuven Lipkind
January 30, 2014 11:37 am

When some residents tried to stop the building of a Mikvah in Park Slope, the then Senator came to aid of the Jewish community and told the anti mikvah committee to stop any action to stop the creation of the mikvah and shot down any critism they had about the Mikvah and the people who would be using the Mikvah.It wasa great victory for community in Park Slope.

CH Eruv
January 30, 2014 11:32 am

Its time for CH to put up a eruv

I understand the rebbe was not in favor of having a eruv but times have changed

an eruv will help those people who may carry on Shabbos to not carry on shabbos.

99% of chabad communities have a eruv there is no reason CH should not.

If you dont like the eruv dont use it but why should someone else not be able to benefit from a eruv because a few people feel they do not want it

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