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Lots of Talk About Hate Crimes

A cross-representation of Crown Heights met for breakfast to discuss the rise in hate crimes. One school principal got frustrated at the lack of concrete solutions. Full Story, Photos, Video

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Observer2
January 2, 2015 10:47 pm

Start a meaningful discussion on community relations with educators and leaders who really care, and mere matching suits.

more cops arent the aswer
November 20, 2013 6:03 pm

all the cops do is go on Kingston not on scary streets and sit on there iphone ipod ipad

Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D
November 20, 2013 2:28 pm

There is plenty of ignorance about ‘The 7 Noahide Laws’ amongst ‘Anash’ here in Crown Heights. Just today an elderly ‘Yid’ in ‘shul’ said: “You cannot teach the non-Jews (‘Goyim’ Rebbe, MH”M did not like use of this word for non-Jews.) ‘Torah.’ If they learn Torah,” he continued, “They’re ‘chaiv misa.’ This is NOT true. Read Rabbi Moshe Weiner’s (From ‘Eretz Yisroel’) ‘Halachic’ book called: ‘The Divine Code’ where we learn that a non-Jew can learn much, but it cannot be ‘leshaime shemayim.’ A number of ‘Anash’ question my use of teaching the ‘chochmos’ in ‘the aleph beit’ Rabbi Y.… Read more »

Do not forget!
November 20, 2013 12:05 pm

They may be committing hate crimes against yidden but C”V what would happen if a yid would do or say something offensive to them? I have many many friends who would love to play “knockout” with one of them just for who they are! Just remember that we are not all so innocent as well.

Mrs. Lewis
November 20, 2013 8:27 am

True story, gong back many years. When my boys caught the bus to school on our corner, every morning a little Black kid going to the public school on Montgomery Troy/Schenectady pushed them, threw stones, called “hate-filled” slurs at them & generally terrified them. One day I had enough, stood away, watched it happen and followed the thug to school. I marched right in, the only white person in sight & demanded to speak to the Principal. She wasn’t too happy but I insisted she dealt with the kid she called Charlie (I could identify him) or…I would. And it… Read more »

it is not fair
November 19, 2013 11:51 pm

They have money to put up cameras at traffic lights,, so they can catch you going through a red light, the city has money for that, because it is a billion dollar business I read, but for this knockout game that these kids are playing and our kids have to be scared to walk the streets they dont have any money

What type of community is this anyway?!
November 19, 2013 10:14 pm

Those kids in those photos are in someone’s school!! Are you trying to tell me that no black principal, or teacher in the African American schools in town can identify their student?? Why are they protecting and harvesting criminals? Can you imagine how our yeshiva principals would react if one of our students would walk around punching people in the streets? Where are the African American principals? Why are they letting their students do this? Where are the teachers? Where are the parents??!! And forget the whole hate crime talk. Let’s just stick to regular crime. Who allows they’re youth… Read more »

Hey Commenters
November 19, 2013 9:42 pm

There’s a lot of screaming going on here, will that help anything?

I was happy to see such a large and diverse group of many different leaders and service individuals getting together. That’s a great start. I don’t know what happened there so I can’t judge.

I would say one thing, making arrests, like the officer mentioned, is not the most important factor. It’s the punishment that comes after that’s important. Others will only stop when they hear that “you don’t want to play around with this or you’d be locked up for good”

Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D
November 19, 2013 9:24 pm

What if these attacks are motivated by jealousy of the Jews?
If a person knows and feels he/she is made ‘In the Image of G-d’ doesn’t this change their perception of life?
Anyway, these children are growing up in a violent society. The media is full of this.
Hello ‘Esav.’

#20
November 19, 2013 9:20 pm

Right on!

boruch hoffinger

Boruch N. Hoffinger 'HaKohaine ' BS"D
November 19, 2013 9:20 pm

Thanks for the meeting. I’ve spoken to hundreds of Afro-Americans and Hispanics in this neighborhood since I’ve had my ‘shiur’ in ‘The 7 Noahide Laws,’ with Mr. Don Goodman as teacher. (I’ve spoken to about 600 all-told. Many out of Crown Heights: Ground Zero, Battery Park, The Staten Island Ferry [Large groups waiting for a ferry.] subways, buses, parks, airplanes [One after the other — sometimes over an hour or two] telephone, Internet [I send comments to moral issues using ‘7 Mitzvot’ material— I received responses. Most Americans know little or nothing about these two topics — tragic. Without these… Read more »

The Rebbe's formula
November 19, 2013 8:36 pm

Both the sheva mitzvos and moment of silence were spoken about

meetings, shmeetings
November 19, 2013 8:26 pm

Time for action. These meetings are bs and accomplish nothing. No one is any safer than before and no changes are made so why bother. Hate is a big part of a lot, not all but a lot of african americsn culture. Hate and anger. There is a time and place for respectful dialogue and a time for actions. The low lifes committing these crimes understnd only one thing. Force and fighting fire with fire. Words and dialogue wth the kids and adults that commit hate crimes are a waste and wont accomplish anything

clubs
November 19, 2013 8:21 pm

In other inner-city minority communities, chess clubs, drama clubs, etc. have made a tremendous impact. These are usually organized through the public schools. I am sure schools that have had success in these areas would be happy to share information about how to get started. The children are taught the value of hard work, how to live morally, self-worth, the value of life, etc.
Hatzlocho rabboh to all involved…
(while we may live out of town, for many of us Crown Heights is home 🙂
town,

the gang syndrom
November 19, 2013 7:45 pm

why do people join gangs? may i suggest they need a sense of being part of a group that cares about them perhaps we should create a program in the schools to give the students a sense of the community they are part of and to give them a sense of pride in belonging to it we can begin with projects highlighting the various service groups in the area, how they started, how they work and the heroes of each group such departments as firemen, sanitation, police, hospitals and ambulances, teachers and colleges could be represented this could entail :… Read more »

We need a meeting of the moms
November 19, 2013 7:26 pm

Throwing these kids into jail so they can turn this sick “game” into dead kids is not the answer. If each kid was held until their mom met with the victim’s mom and came up with consequences – it would be more effective. These kids are more afraid of their moms who don’t believe in In authoritative methods of parenting. For some jail is a step up – 3 hot meals is more than they are getting. The other people the kids would listen to are their stars – have rappers and the other big stars come out against knock… Read more »

nisht kein jungle
November 19, 2013 7:17 pm

When it came to crime the Rebbe’s stand was clear. Teach them that there is a Baal Habus to this world, and it’s not a Jungle. Its called chinuch. Anyone bring that up in the meeting?

Another meeting
November 19, 2013 6:29 pm

To make themselves feel better and to say they had a meeting about it. No arrests and no responsibility.

Meir
November 19, 2013 6:26 pm

BS”D no on ate
is that Clarence Norman resurrected

More cops isnt the answer
November 19, 2013 6:20 pm

Undercover cops are the only solution – the only way to finally nab these criminals

"HERE WE GO AGAIN"
November 19, 2013 5:55 pm

DEJA VU. IT SEEMS THAT EVERY TIME THERE IS BLACK ON WHITE INCIDENT, THE FIRST THING WE HEAR IS WHAT WILL BE DONE FOR THEM ( TO QUOTE TESSA ALLEYNE THE PRINCIPAL OF P.S.91 “MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR OUR KIDS”). WE HEARD THE SAME LINE FROM AL SHARPTON AFTER THE 91 RIOTS.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS FOR THEM TO RAISE THIER CHILDREN WITH THE BASIC TENETS OF HUMAN DECENCY.
SD

Chanina
November 19, 2013 5:33 pm

He represents the whole chabad community??

where is out councilwoman?
November 19, 2013 5:27 pm

it is suprising our very own latish james who is still our council member and soon to be public advocate is not there

Moment of Silence and Sheva Mitzvos Bnai Noach
November 19, 2013 5:13 pm

The Rebbe gave the answer years ago, now we have to implement it in all the public schools.

where are the masses ?
November 19, 2013 4:57 pm

this meeting should have been done in the evening so the commuity can come out and speak and be heard y hush hush ???????????

Ch resident
November 19, 2013 4:51 pm

Arrest the kids.keep them locked up Nd this will teach the others. Forget talk and education. It is the black kids fighting not our kids. This meeting was awasteoftime because for an african american to say his kids arenot safe makes thewhole the whole thing null and void. The black. Kids are safe and continue

photos!!!
November 19, 2013 4:49 pm

WOW!! THEY ATE SOME BAGELS, TOOK SOME PICTURES, AND EVERYONE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER. (NOT)

Judge lets voilent crime back on street
November 19, 2013 4:48 pm

Serial burgular , is let out a day after he is caught , repeating these burgularies again , rap sheet of 20 years.
throw out liberals and judges soft on crime

Kevin
November 19, 2013 4:31 pm

As long as our so called community leaders keep on letting the leaders of the African American communities throw around their equivalency comments i.e “there’s racism in the community” “We need to work together to bring down the violence”, will never see any positive change. Lets be clear the history of Black on Jewish crime VS Jewish on Black crime is so clear it doesn’t even merit a stat. That’s where the conversation needs to start, we need to demand from the City and Black leadership an answer as to WHY this happens. Lastly in a sense its our fault,… Read more »

wow
November 19, 2013 4:27 pm

What a dog and pony show (load of krap)

Bottom Line it
November 19, 2013 4:13 pm

Are they putting up cameras on every corner?? Then please do not waste our time, or insult our intelligence.

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