By Sheina Raskin
They say go with the norm. Socially, religiously, politically or even emotionally. Whether this flow is positive, negative or neutral, it’s comfortable to do what is being done in ones social circles. Society dictates, in a sense, various standards for how we should act, think and feel to which we subconsciously abide by.
The norm is to go to seminary. It is accepted by the religious Jewish community that after 13 years of school, a girl should spend a year of learning in an inspiring context. The right grades, background, references and connections are imperative in the selection process so that a close to perfect, chassidish, learned and mature girl can be completed.
Girls come from different homes, schools and environments which influence the way they interact, learn, behave and think. There seems to be a prerequisite for a year of success, believed by those that run our schools. That is, that success is defined by a selection of a group relatively on the same level academically and religiously.
Consequently I began to view the system as a factory, an generic developmental process to reach a state of community approval. Hundreds of different beings enter in the hope that they leave a better version of themselves, however this change is limited to what the system desires of them in context to the group.
As is known, Chabad seminaries, especially in Israel are very limited in number and size, and represent extremes of the spectrum. I wanted to make my experience real and meaningful, to have all the time, effort and money to be worthwhile for myself and my parents.
Although I couldn’t find any place that I felt confident would be the right place for me, I was too afraid to leave the system. I therefore settled for what was guaranteed exceptional seminary experiences. I felt the least I could do to remain strong to my individuality was to myself personal goals. In order to give myself a chance to grow in the areas I felt needed.
I wanted to live Torah, to experience cultures within Judaism, appreciate Chabad, live our Jewish history, be academically stimulated, to have a clearer sense of self, and be able to motivated and able to learn on my own.
As an Australian I did half a year of 2 seminaries in both Australia and Israel. Most of the girls I was surrounded with flourished, learnt a lot and had incredible experiences.Unfortunately though I found the system routine and superficial without a sense of instillment. Torah and other subjects like in high school was a class, not a reality. Whilst I learnt more then I have ever in my life,
After a year of seminary, half in 2 very different institutions I felt I hadn’t achieved what I had set out to. I gained from the diversity of the groups and made real friends for life. The experiences I had we’re mostly positive with memories I will always cherish. When it came to learning, due to lack of interest and respect classes were not so productive. I managed though to do alot of self learning and persistence to apply what I learnt. I became disheartened when these personal victories where ignored and not appreciated while my personal struggles where viewed as defying authority. I came into the seminary system fresh, motivated and focused, I left disappointed and even more confused.
I made a decision, took a step towards personal growth and a step away from the system. After a year of seminary yet with another few months in the program I was in, I chose a path that I believe in essence is the purpose of seminary. Independence, maturity, introspection and living what is being learned. I joined a Sherut Leumi as a full time volunteer in Sharei Tzedek Medical Centre, and put my ahavat Yisrael and ahavat eretz Yisrael in action.
I loved it. After every single day I felt accomplished, proud of who I am, that I was constantly learning and making a difference.I brushed up on my Hebrew as I worked side by side inspiring patients, families, doctors and nurses. I joined Mayanot Women’s Program for classes where the focus is real life and practical putting what I was learning into action. What I found when treated with respect as an individual and having a real life responsibilities are the two imperative factors in growth and success
For most it’s accepted to go with the flow.
For others it’s important to be the flow.
Don’t go to seminary because everyone is going, be your own “seminary”. Become your own factory of success, set goals and achieve them; become the outcome you want the outcome to be. After 13 years of school you should be able to be honest and mature enough with yourself to make choices that influence your future. If you have the desire to connect to your roots, to learn and to be inspired you deserve the experience. Whether its in a structured learning institution, a year of shluchos/ volunteering or first year of collage don’t be afraid to take the path that will be the best for your personal road to growth.
Hopefully with enough knowledge, awareness, and urging, new seminaries will open that cater to individuals. Firstly I recommend well established seminaries to assess the way they run their institutions. When the focus is on the student rather the system there can only be true and long lasting affects. Communities too, should consider before judging if and what seminary a girl goes as a solid assumption of what/who the girl is. Finally, to those in distress in their decision making, don’t let your desire to with go with the flow limit your ability to succeed.
Sheina I’m so proud of that article. I chose not to go to seminary for personal reasons and instead took a year off to work and then started college/university. I was treated with a lot of judgement by my community and have hence realised that this kind of superficial behaviour is not something I want to be associated with. What people have to realise is that they need to stop being so narrow minded, different things suit different people. We are not all supposed to go into a mould and turn out the same rather we should be encouraged to… Read more »
I don’t think the author is making general statements and saying that seminary is bad for everyone. She is just saying that if it is not the best for you, don’t feel the need to go ahead with it anyways just because EVERYONE else is. There are other options that are positive and constructive and you should think about that.
Thank you for that was very inspirational
You are a hundred percent right and an inspiration to us all
I went to Ohel Chana in Melbourne. I was only accepted on probation.. thats right.. they put me on probation before I had even got there and done anything to warrant it. After 13 years of the school system I wanted to go out and do seminary for myself, after reading my letter of conditioned acceptance I cried for hours. I contemplated whether such an institution which has the audacity to pass judgement on me before they knew me was really a place I wanted to be.. I wondered if this is what chabad stands for then do I want… Read more »
Perhaps before you write this you should describe where life had taken you to this point.
Making Melbourne proud!
fellow aussie
You are the real deal. You realise that to act as a bas chabad, you don’t have to be locked away in a bubble, sheltered from the outside world- you just have to be attached to what’s above and to Chassidus.
It’s so Inspiring to read your experiences of self reflection and growth. GMAr chasima Tova and may this year bringers growth for you in learning and ways of Chassidus etc.
-Avigail W
To #37. What did u do throughout your sons life to guide him toward making a parnassah? Did he learn English? Is he capable of taking some courses that will lead to a job? Maybe he is planning shlichus in which case he will haveto do what all the shluchim do, they get started by whoever it is that places them and then they haveto actively fundraise. Best of luck whatever it is. Being in the system sure doesn’t give a boy too many options:(
First of all, I applaud you for giving out your real name. that sure took some guts.
Second of all, out of all the articles I’ve ever read, this one tops it off. It’s from the heart, and those are the articles I like best.
The truthful ones.
Going to a good seminary and taking ot seriously is one of the best things that can ever happen to a girl.
I am very proud you stood up to teach other people to look after themselves to live their own life with torah and mitzvos
if only we could ! they choose us and not always so wisely….
For many going with the Sem flow is exactly what is needed to stay focused as a solid Jewish happy woman.
Please do not try to encourage girls to try a different (secular and dangerous flow.) I’m specifically referring to the college suggestion. I’m not referring to taking courses the Kosher way.
Good luck to you!
Its easy to jump to say you are wrong. Thats what is the normal flowlike thing to say to someone with such a perspective. You have missed the author’s message. completely. think twice before getting swepped away with the … tide.. Another point: for the girls who have been born, raised in the system and have suceeded: it is more than easy to point a finger at the person who “failed” ( and i put it in quotes because in truth i see it as a victory).. and say “the problem is in you.” but as always, three fingers point… Read more »
thank you for saying what I have been trying to tell so many people for so long!
I’m really proud of you and your way!! You did a great job and a lot of Mitzvots and Chasadim at Sherut Leumi in Israel. You helped us, and brought an happiness to everyone and made the patients smile and get well!! I really like the way you wrote that article! I wish you good luck…miss you so much!! Lovee: Reut Halevi:)
I am in seminary in Israel right now, and although I don’t agree with the author’s hashkafa, I agree with her main point. I would not recommend the seminary I am in for a lot of people. Be VERY, VERY careful when choosing a seminary. Make sure it is a place where you will flourish. For example, choose a small seminary if you do well in small groups, because in a big seminary you will feel totally lost. It is extremely important to discuss your options with parents, teachers, and mashpias. Take it very seriously and thoughtfully. I wish you… Read more »
Great article Sheina!
Really enjoyed reading that and couldn’t possibly agree more regarding the system as a whole
Osher Raskin
Love thisssss :):) If only everyone would be so honest and straightforward!!
Good for you! You seem very sincere and confident in your decisions. Just some points to ponder on… It might be best to examine other possibilities of why you felt this way. Perhaps the seminary you attended wasn’t catered for you. A lot of girls may end up in seminaries not right for them because they went out of peer pressure, the need to go with the flow.. There is a seminary out there catered for every single girl. Of course there are always exceptions, but generally, girls should think deeply on choosing a seminary that fits THEIR needs, not… Read more »
SM I am blown away by your courage and honesty! So proud to have you as a dear freind love you lots chay xxs
Ummm, no we don’t.
You have no clue what you are talking about…
It doesnt mean the seminary was “ignoring your personal victories” like if i decided to daven maariv- why is my seminary meant to know that? those personal levels are for ourselves! at the end of the day Seminary is a system! “Defying authority” doesnt take away from your personal victories- Rather try understand a seminarys point of veiw. Your teachers, your behavious in class. Its important to realise that DERECH ERETZ and KABOLOS OL play a big part in a bnos chabad !!
Today the path is to ask a Rov/Maspia. I knew many of the great elder Chaidim and very few followed the herd.
I think that within the Chabad derech there is room (and need for more room?) for individuality and options. But it is always most successful when the basic structure of a Chabad lifestyle is respected and maintained. You can be an individual, and follow a different path, without ‘hating’ on everything in ‘the system’. Remember, there are many, many good things in this system that you HAVE benefited from, that your family HAS benefited from, and that has helped mold you into the person you are. Go with the Rebbe’s brocha into your endeavors. There is always a kosher way… Read more »
definitely agree with the lack of caring and individuality in the system. I feel that the solution is not in bucking the system, but trying to fix it – not very easy necessarily, but that doesn’t make the easy path, the right path. every marriage contains two different individuals. if it’s not exactly what you want (even if you’re right) does that mean, dump it and find another path. in the large population that we B”H have, each person has to find fulfillment within himself and stay with the system the Rebbe clearly laid out for us. realizing the problems… Read more »
and start over….
I may not agree with everything you said but admire the way you said it and most of all for not being a coward and actually putting your name to it.
If only COL was brave enough to print all op-ed with names
hashkofa not really ours. also the writer still surrounded with chassidishe girls? I wish it were more apparent to those unfamiliar with this choice that the surroundings are those of Kippot Srugot. (I greatly respect them but that is a very different derech. The article was nice, but the readers do need to know that… Perhaps if the writer had said she was on Shlichus in a Sherut Leumi context…
You can’t say a system doesn’t work for someone if they don’t take the system seriously. If you don’t adhere to a program you subscribe to – well then, maybe you will feel resentment. If you cannot adhere to seminary, then yes, it’s not for you.
I think the key to this article is the first word, “they”. Who are “they” that make you make decisions that are not right for you?
I heard a great saying “people spend their lives working a job they don’t like to buy things they don’t want, to impress people they don’t care about”
Just live your life as you see fit and don’t worry about what “they” say because one day you’ll realize that there is no “they” just you.
If doing things the proper way doesn’t feel right for me, then I make MY own path. I pick and choose where I want my chassidishkeit to fit in? Not everything is feel good. Backgroudn and personal experience will have a lot to do with feeling the need to make you own path because nothing else is good enough. It’s initiation but it can go too far without guidance. A lot of young girls will be reading this for validation – and guidance does not seem to be an important factor to the author.
Sheina, Thank you for the article. You sound like a frum confident and intelligent young woman. I am sure that your patents are proud of you. However, we must step and realize that as chasidim we have a direction in life given to us by the Rebbe. Not everyone can reach that ideal and that shouldn’t depress you and make you hate everything that the Rebbe stands for. You sound like you found a healthy place for yourself and the Rebbe will be proud of you as well But looking at the Rebbes ideal, he would have wanted for all… Read more »
My son is 19. When I asked him what he plans on doing after smicha he says he does not know. When I ask him what he plans on doing for parnassa, he says he does not know and he will just go with the system and see where it takes him. This does not give me much comfort.
There’s an amazing sicha on parshios Nitzavim-Vayelech volume 29, which addresses this issue. In a nutshell, it points out that first there must be a strong and solid foundation that is immutable upon which one can build his unique individuality There are other sichos that address this as well.
i agree… it seems as though u cant speak for other girls your age because you seem different.
your outlooks on life are not the same as girls your age…and it is wrong of you to assist in helping teenage girls be led away from the system…yes the system does have flaws and it does need major improvent..but i think with your circumstances, you dont really have a right to talk about it!!
Really amazing story!!! So nice to hear the beautiful truth of how you really feel!!
The Rebbe stressed many times that a Mashpiah must be consulted. One wrong turn, especially at this age, can have disastrous long term effects. One must not rely on the very prevalent justification that “I am exploring my OWN path”!
THIS is what we produce,
Honest
real
genuine
intelligent
confident
and true to yourself
proud to be a fellow Aussi
I don’t want to comment on the content of this article- but it must be mentioned that Sherut Leumi is a Halachic question for a Rav to decide and not “the flow” or personal feelings. I think the editorial staff should have paid attention to this.
well written!!!
that is 1 of the things that other bochur is trying 2 create through his website project
yeshivaguide.com
loved the article well written and too true
sheina love, your keep making us all proud! kol hakavod!
Very brave for putting your name on it
THAT is a good idea if I’ve ever heard one
It’s interesting to hear everyone pulling down the ‘system’ – what is the system and WHO is the system? It’s us, it’s you. Listen to yourselves and realise that you are that teacher in the ‘system’, that student and that parent. What are you doing about it? To blanket statemtent the ‘sysem’ as mainstream and keep it as a general tool which never cater to the indiviudal is wrong. Forget the word ‘system’. It’s you and it’s me. It’s very easy to point fingers, say something is not functional and to find a scapegoat. Take the time to make it… Read more »
You went to quite a few Seminaries, and only then,did you go way above and beyond the flow.
You have strong and solid Chassidishe values,you have a good head on your shoulders, and alot of common sense.
You can tell right from wrong. But for most of the young generation today,going with the flow is the miracle that keeps them on the proper path, and not going off to do all kinds of crazy things and places.
This article is so true and important for all seminary girls and yeshiva bochurim. Everybody take it to heart!
Its so hard not to stick with the flow, yet so essential for ones personal growth.
Sending my love from Australia! That really inspired me 🙂
Would you be saying the same thing if you had been in a functional program?
Incredible article!! Well said and so honest.
What so many people have been scared to say all along.
Love a fellow Australian:)
You are the best!!! Love Faigie xoxox
Thank You for writing this wonderful & improtant pionts to the public that often gets sweept away! Thank You!
You make a great piont about not going with the flow but rather be the flow, inother words stand up for what u belive in & what is right for U may not be right for the other person and do your part to make things happen! Gmar chasima Tova U’Metzuka 🙂
Well done putting your name on the article
You are amazing girl!
We love you and so proud of you and everything you do, couldn’t ask for a better friend than you!
I love it! So honest, so real, so relatable.. Thank you!
Amazing! -PHW
the system wants only what they think are the top 10% elite,and dont care to throw away the other 90% of our children. pretty proud to see a young lady with a head on her shoulders figuring it out
Thank you for being who you are and sharing your relatable/accessible/human/real insight.
Each of us is a unique gift of Hashem, in addition to us being a contributor to/participant in our circles/communities.
Paradoxically – like everything is in life – we’re BOTH individual AND group. We’re BOTH our own entity AND in relation to someone or something else.
Keep talking… to keep healthy, shana tovah u’metukah
This letter is amazing SM! I am so proud of you for stating the facts and saying it like it is.
Cheers to continued success in trailblazing your unique path and making a difference in the world.
I second #7- from someone who pretended for far too long
Great article!
Just to throw an idea out: perhaps something like Sheirut l’umi might not be advisable for all young girls as some people don’t do so well due to lack of self dicipline – in a free enviroment. Perhaps a group should b organized with individuality in mind. This group should offer prospective positions in “securer” enviroments & couple it with learning and adventure programs ALL AT A VERY LOW COST! Maybe even a productive program in which girls go as teams to help Shluchim and stay connected through a Online Seminary with periodical Shabbatons & get togethers.
Your words come from the heart, and entered the heart.
– a fellow fan
Why are there so many Lubavitcher bochurim in the idf…
Making Australia proud!
Good on you for being the best YOU out there!
If you’re true to yourself you will always be happier than someone who is pretending 🙂
From someone who pretended for a very long time XxX
Nicely done
You made my day/ night.
thanks 🙂 …awesome to hear from ppl like u
a real breath of fresh air
keep doing what ur doing and be proud.
Thanks for making this oped real and not anonymous. Also written so beautifully and honestly!!!!
A fellow Australian 😉
Wow 10 points for putting your real name.
wowo
Grrat point…kol haakovod
I enjoyed the writers positive and honest approach. I did not do sem in Israel, because I felt the experience would be very limiting and not teach me any independence, what with the dormitory, food and everything taken care of.
I found subsequently that people were very judgmental of me, but I have also found my way in true growth and yiddishkeit outside of the seminary experience.
Thanks for an articulate and refreshing point of view.
Gmar Chasima Tova!