Oholei Torah holds Model Seder
The Pre-1A class of Oholei Torah joined their fathers for a model Seder Sunday, preparing the Kaarah and learning about the Hagadah together. The boys were addressed by Rabbi Meir Shimshoni, principal. Photos
The Pre-1A class of Oholei Torah joined their fathers for a model Seder Sunday, preparing the Kaarah and learning about the Hagadah together. The boys were addressed by Rabbi Meir Shimshoni, principal. Photos
You seem to misunderstand the purpose of this seder.
The teachers spent weeks preparing and reading the Hagada with the kids so that they know what’s happening at the real seder.
As a final step of preperation we also have this seder.
I hope I pleaded my case properly to you and wish you a Happy Pesach.
Did you read the previous comments? Sounds like you’re trying to attack for the sake of attacking. Preparing the children for Pesach is great. Looking forward to the seder is wonderful. Parents spending time with their children is vital. We agree on all that (though strangely enough, somehow you seemed to think otherwise). Nobody said anything about model seders modernizing the school. Now for the issue at hand – why make a model seder when the real sedarim are precisely what we will be doing next week? After 28 comments, I have yet to read a convincing response. I heard… Read more »
You should be happy that the yeshiva is trying to prepare the children for Pesach. Perhaps you should have been there and would realize the importance of the program. The term model Seder was only as a way to describe the event but not to modernize the school in any way. In fact all that was done was to read and explain to the kids the details of the Seder in practical and friendly way. Now the children have a Geshmak and look forward to the Seder. What’s wrong with that. And what’s wrong with a father spending time with… Read more »
I see. If you don’t like someone’s opinion you tell them to stop being negative, stop complaining and enjoy life. I hope you respond in a more welcoming fashion when your children (students if you have them) critique things they see. Telling people to shut up is a great way to turn people off. Think before you post. As for the actual tochen of your comment. How did Jews, young and old, for thousands of years, prepare for the seder? By making model sedarim? No. So you haven’t provided a convincing reason for why a model seder serves a purpose… Read more »
The real thing can only happen when we prepare them for it. This was the purpose of the event.
I wonder how your seder looks like . My hope is that you are not as negative at your own Seder.
Stop complaining and start enjoying life.
I have read all the comments but you 19 really stand out.You have a very positive attitude.You definitely sound like a very involved parent who makes time for his children.Whats nice also is you acknowledge and appreciate what the schools are doing!May you only continue to be a true role model for others!
nice idea but what do they need it for?
Thank you #19 for giving the ONLY response that actually responded to my points. Telling people to shut up (#22) when they question something is a great way to turn them off. #18 – you seem to think that I’m advocating no activities, no good-times, no special events. Where do you get that idea from?! If you read what I wrote you will see that I said it’s wonderful to have positive bonding activities with your children! My question is why this PARTICULAR activity. Back to #19 – You sound like a devoted parent and I hear what you’re saying… Read more »
If you have nothing nice to say dont say it.
THANK YOU.
I am a teacher i do na model seder every year with my children but these pictures really looked special i have decided to do a father and son model seder next year in my school. Thanks col for such great coverage and sharing such a wonderful idea with us.
My son is still talking about sundays event. He told me he cant wait to be a shliach when he is older and make a seder for his people.Thank you for instilling these special values into our precious kinderlach.
I was there and I loved it. I also go with my children to avos ubanim and do homework with them. The kids spent a very long time learning about Pesach and the Seder in an abstract way in class. This was a beautiful opportunity to be able to have one more chance to learn and practice what they learned in a hands on way. And what could be nicer than having Tatty right there to help them and shep nachas. The mentality that we the “frum” are different than…. and should do….. or not do…. is soooo old shcool,… Read more »
A kid must have good time in Yeshivah. You can’t lock up a child. I was growing up in Israel where I barely had any trips or any other entertaining program. We had a trip once a year which my parents didn’t let me go because they were afraid of terror, accidents etc. when I see the difference here in Oholei Torah. I think to myself this is how to raise a child. Rabbi Shimshoni keeps the boys with all kinds of projects the boys can enjoyed including Rabbi Rappaport and Rabbi Lustig. They let the kids to go to… Read more »
What is wrong with all of you? What can possibly be wrong with having a nice one on one moment with little 5,6 year old boys and their fathers? And why call it a fake seder? It was a practice seder. Thank you, Rabbi Shimshoni and to Rabbi Benjamin, I enjoyed every moment of it! And so did my son!
Of course it was a positive, wonderful event and there should be a number of opportunities throughout the school year for parents to visit the school and be involved.
No one said otherwise. I sure hope though, that the same fathers who were inspired by the model seder will be inspired by the actual seder (sedarim). Seems sad to me that we need schools to arrange contrived events for fathers to bond with their sons.
Are all the fathers who were inspired by the model seder also attending Avos U’Banim learning with their sons every motzoei Shabbos?
I am a father who was there i was very inspired besides all other fathers i was sitting with only had positive things to say.I second stand strong and say come on fathers voice your appreciation not only the mothers and yes we want more even on sunday whenever you make it well be there in full force cause this is whats gonna make the future generation.
I see #12, if something is done, it must be praised because it must be right. Questioning an activity is off-limits. I got the point #13 and apparently you didn’t read mine. You didn’t answer a single question or point I raised. The question in brief (see comment 11 for elaboration) is: Why is a seder rehearsal being done for quality time and memories when we have the real thing coming up next week. If it’s a bonding activity between fathers and sons that is needed, why a seder rehearsal? Frum kids all over the world have Avos U’Banim bonding… Read more »
In response to how about the real deal it seems you have totally missed the point this was an opportunity for children to spend quality time with their fathers my husband was there and said all fathers who were there were truly inspired and proud why does someone always have to come along and knock things. We live in very challengting times and we mothers want our children to come out fine and chassidish i know what goes into organising such an event and guess what nobody forces them to do extra . I actually think its very noble that… Read more »
if u have nothing nice to say dont say it thank u
I don’t get it. Are great memories of the REAL sedarim not good enough that we need to have a fake seder for fond memories? Why are fathers thrilled with the nachas they get from seeing their sons reading from the Haggada and seeing how much they know at a fake seder? What about the REAL SEDARIM? Of course children need to see that their parents take an interest in their schooling and of course our children need superlative chinuch (did anyone suggest otherwise?) and parents’ attention and time but why this? Did any other generation of frum children and… Read more »
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Also need a model seder and any opportunity for an event that will offer quality time/learning together. It would be nice if this would continue in the pre-bar mitzva age group as well, and why not for bar-mitzva boys and beyond. The school and home must work as a team in the chinuch of children.
Gurevitch, good to see you!
frum children need to see that their parents care what they are doing at school. They will always remeber the mock Seder that their father attended.
Also this way the fathers will know at Seder night what questions to ask the child and this will encourage the child to ask questions back. well done PR 1A Rebbis
yes but chinuch for frum children is also very important if not for them who will be are future shluchim out there. We have to instill in our children a happiness and love of Yiddishkiet like the Rebbe did so we can go out and give to others with this feeling as well and by the way let Ohelei Torah do extra programs like this its greatly appreciated!!! Finallyyyyyy
Wonderful to see how chassidim of Chabad hold tightly to this ancient minhag of model seder. With a chinuch of this style we are guaranteed the future of Lubavitx=ch.
Go go Meir the Aussie.
It was truly an unbelievable event. I cannot imagine any other place i would have rather been. As a parent i got so much nachas from seeing my son read from the haggadah and to see how well versed he was in the details of the seder i definitely dont remember having father and son model seder as a child> Thank you principals and teachers of oholei torah for sharing this special nachas.
Why do frum kids and their fathers need a model seder? I thought the idea is that irreligious kids and their parents get a preview to see what it’s supposed to look like. This helps them make a seder of their own or if they attend a public seder, they’ll know what’s going on. But those blessed with a Jewish chinuch are taught about Pesach!